it is absolutely true president reagan signed the bill you refer to. >> simpson-masoli, '76. >> later issued about executive order something he missed and wanted to correct t. extended it for children, after congress passed that. let's not focus on the detailings of the immigration. focus on welfare. >> saying he did -- >> not saying it was after congress. both houses, passed simpl simpson-masoli, the will of congress to push that through and extended it further. at any rate, on welfare, on welfare. >> what's the question? >> whether mike is right. are we punishing workers now and have to change that system? that's a perverse incentive. >> you know that i am absolutely onboard the idea of looking cloegser at the welfare system. if it were me, i'd be spending more time and money looking at welfare cheats pup go to any welfare office, unemployment office, you see who really needs and it who is scamming the system. >> maybe put rick in charge. >> yeah. yeah! >> what do you think, steve? >> it's been done -- it's been done before, david when julie ya giuliani became mayor in the 1990s. 1.