the web site did not. we also concealed what the russian web site claimed were the exact g.p.s. coordinates of each camera, complete with a map. the web site claimed it's legal because they've hacked into cameras where the owners didn't change the default password. it lists more than 4500 cameras in the u.s. alone. from a beach parking lot in australia, to a tokyo skied line, to a street not far from us in london. but former f.b.i. assistant director shawn henry told us there isn't much the u.s. government can do about a russian web site. >> you know, if somebody was pearing in your windows, you can't expect police officers to be walking up and down the street. you've got to draw your curtains. this really is a case where citizens have to be aware of what the threat is, what the risks are and they're going to have to take measures to protect themselves. >> reporter: he said about the only thing u.s. officials can do is hope for cooperation from russian authorities to try to shut it down, scott, an unlikely scenario, considering the country's relationship at the moment. >> pelley

the fact remains that the rollout of this web site was a debacle. at's not my testament of health secretary kathleen sebelius. my testament is the situation remains that you and others in the white house have been neither forthright or forthcoming about your role and responsibilities at the white house. integrity in government is integral to the public's faith in our democracy. does our nation's leaders must be open and honest with our fellow americans. with respect to roles in the executive branch congress has articulated in our constitution. the fact remains that the white house still has not provided all the documents pursuant to the committee's subpoena. we subpoenaed them and we still have not gotten them. perhaps that is why people still disagree about your role in the debacle. eternal vigilance is the price we pay for liberty. to that end the committee maintains that all documents pursuant to the subpoena be provided and we ask for the administration to please provide those expeditiously. after more thorough assessment of the documents he may

the deep web is also used for virtuous activities. sts used the deep web in 2009 to circumvent the government and organize protests. >> services are used by all kinds of people. >> reporter: deep web hidden services are also used by law enforcement, journalists, the military, and ordinary people who don't want their activities monitored by the government or other out services. patricia sabga, al-gaz al jazee new york. >> up next i'll look at the movement to picking companies board of directors. ♪ >>> if you own even one share of stock in a public company, you are an owner of that company. but when it comes to hiring and firing the head of that company, the ceo, it is the board of directors that calls the shot, and the board is often picked by company insiders. shareholders have little or no say. at least regular shareholders. but some very big investors are trying to change that. and as duarte geraldino reports, some people say that could have a significant impact on your 401k, your pension, or other retirement accounts. >> reporter: n

the deep web is also used for virtuous activities. sts used the deep web in 2009 to circumvent the protests. >> services are used by all kinds of people. >> reporter: deep web hidden services are also used by law enforcement, journalists, the military, and ordinary people who don't want their activities monitored by the government or other out services. patricia sabga, al-gaz al jazeera, new york. >> up next i'll look at the movement to picking companies board of directors. >> tomorrow on tech know. a brutal killing. a thorough investigation. >> we're pushing the envelope. >> but this is no ordinary c.s.i. >> what went on right before that animal died? >> hunting the hunter. >> we're gonna take down the bad guys. >> solving the crime. >> we can save species. >> tech know's team of experts show you how the miracles of science. >> this is my selfie, what can you tell me about my future? >> can affect and surprise us. >> don't try this at home. >> tech know, where technology meets humanity. tomorrow at 7:30 eastern. only on al jazeera ame

this week, we are digging into what they call the deep web. a featured interview were the guardian journalist who worked on the snowden story. first, we will explore one of the growth industries in the world of journalism, the encryption tools more and more reporters are using to get the story, keep the powers that be accountable to protect their sources without so much as an electronic trace. >> a skurjournalist has to take precautions because the ones protecting the material that sources send them. >> when you see a video on the news of atrocities being committed by regimes, then if that source is still alive, chances are they have been using digital security tools. >> whether we agree with what he had ward snowden did or not, it brought to light how pervasive it has become. >> the snowden nsa story did make it into print, but it took awhile. having taken the initiative, snowden knot want to risk sending classified intelligence documents unencrypted. he instructed glen greenwald on how to install pgp, an encryption tool been around. greenwald

indication for the breakthrough? servicesazon web business is really separate from the book publishing business, although the publishing and sales of everything run on the same service. this conference is focused on the technologies that make the internet and all technology work, really about those developments. as it relates to this development, both of these companies need each other. there was a suggestion that amazon sales in the last quarter were actually hurt by not being able to sell hachette books. books are still central to amazon. hachette needs the largest retailer in the world if they are going to sell books, so they both needed it to work out, but in terms that would benefit them for the long-term, not just get through the quarter or year. authors say they were hurt, some say they lost 90% of their earnings. i spoke with malcolm gladwell before the deal was done. all five of his books sold on amazon. listen to what he had to say about what he has lost. >> it cost me a lot of money, that's for sure. little.s my heart a i

if you have any charisma, good clinical advisor you can go on the web and do your own ads et cetera and raise money. like barack obama single-handedly undid the post-watergate reforms because he could raise more money on the web than matching funds to provide from the federal government. this has been a state of our politics. what does the to? party organization breaks down, different hierarchy. can lead to gridlock, chaos. i'm optimistic looking back through history. we are about to finish the election cycle for the tea party. of the anxious to see how well they do. first we have to get through 2014. i go from one point to another but it all comes together in the end. how we doing on time? [inaudible] >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much once again. a delight to meet you all. >> the books are right outside. you ask additional questions. >> my pleasure, thank you. transforming. >> -- [inaudible conversations] >> is there a nonfiction author or book you would like to see featured on booktv? send us an e-mail to booktv@c-span.org. >> it seems to me it's important to start talking

net neutrality is such an important principle for the web and the internet.s how the internet's operated for all this time. we want to make sure that stays clear as we advance into the future. >> woodruff: let me read you some of the comments that have been pouring in today from some folks who are concerned about this. the former chairman of the f.c.c., now president of the national cable and telecommunications association, michael powell, he issued a statement saying "we are stunned the president would abandon the long-standing bipartisan policy of widely regulating internet and call for extreme regulation. >> well, it's interesting some of the reactions i've seen as well. this principal of net neutrality has been operating since the beginning and, so, the f.c.c. has an opportunity here to put that into practice so there's not some kind of extreme regulation added here. we really want to make sure the american people are able to get to any web site they'd like to get to. let's say for example you want to reach video providers, you don't want one provider to

the attack has shocked web users across kenya. few can understand why the authorities aren't doing more to protect people. the digital world has seen some major developments over the past 25 years. the advent of the web -- rise of the digital age, from the arrival of google to the iphone. the world was producing 160 more -- 160 times more data than it was at the new millennium. is democracy now! >> many of the worlds problems are so intractable that it is hard to think of ways even to take steps towards mitigating them. the israel-palestine conflict is not one of these. on the contrary, the general outlines of a diplomatic solution have been clear for at least 40 years.

the web. more the business is the bloomberg terminal, which is this amazing information portal that is only available to financial professionals. there is so much amazing data and amazing reporting that is being done. if even a fraction of that can get to the web in a way that makes sense -- not that it is not going to the web, but the strategy here has not been focused. it is a range of things. part of it is having people be web-first. part of it is figuring out how to take the reporting and repackaged it in some way that is great for the web. lots more charts, maybe changing the length of things, pulling out certain chunks, taking all of the data -- i mean, there is this obsession in journalism right now about data-driven journalism. i think that comes from a desire to see the evidence and show the work physically. bloomberg has more data than anyone in the terminal. extracting that data and showing it to people is a huge opportunity. >> and getting rid of the black background. [laughter] >>

were paying attention to according to polls, for healthcare.gov during this time period, not just the webe but the whole issue, than was it's typhoon or something that killed so many people. so we were just not covering any developments once the light switch went off. >> host: and you -- cbs is different from fox news and msc because you have 30 minutes every night. right? you have the morning show as well. but that's 30 minutes of tightly edited, curated news. but you're -- >> guest: at the very night -- i have this example in the book. the same day a poll showed how many people were interested in healthcare.gov. a huge percentage of the american public. we were puttingn stories largely the same stories the flee networks, not even mentioning important hearings with developments on healthcare.gov. both pro and con testimony. i'm not saying you have to skew the story one way or the other. they just weren't reporting on at out all, even when it remained a major issue in the eyeses of most americans. >> host: talk a bit about -- you begin the book with really this kind of hard rowing experie

. >> you can track the rain on our web site with the abc 7 news weather app. free on a el app store or google play. also more information to our web site. >> director of the zoo spoke he motionally today about the death of the baby griing a two week ago. >> but also answering question from the i-team. zoo keeper ind her colleagues believe the director is throwing her under the bus. >> we have a report seen only on 7 news. >> today commission meeting zoo director peterson showed a picture of little guerrilla born at the zoo but rejected by her mother. she was hand fed by zoo staff the first month of her life. but as zoo keeper tried to lock her in the sleeping quarters for the night friday november 7th, the baby guerrilla got caught beneath hydraulic door and died. >> it is an under statement to say that the worst night of my career is the night we lost her forever. simply said it was a tragic accident. >>reporter: just days after the guerrilla died she released several sensitive documents. zoo keeper handwritten note about what happened. the instruction posted

. >> you can track the rain on our web site with the abc 7 news weather app. free on a el app store or google play. also more information to our web site. >> director of the zoo spoke he motionally today about the death of the baby griing a two week ago. >> but also answering question from the i-team. zoo keeper involved in the incident and her colleagues believe the director is throwing her under the bus. >> we have a report seen only on 7 news. >> today commission meeting zoo director peterson showed a picture of little guerrilla born at the zoo but rejected by her mother. she was hand fed by zoo staff the first month of her life. but as zoo keeper tried to lock her in the sleeping quarters for the night friday november 7th, the baby guerrilla got caught beneath hydraulic door and died. >> it is an under statement to say that the worst night of my career is the night we lost her forever. simply said it was a tragic accident. >>reporter: just days after the guerrilla died she released several sensitive documents. zoo keeper handwritten note about what happened

. >> the videos are part of a web series called fantasy files, promoting nfl.com's fantasy football league. >> right now there's about 30 million people playing fantasy football a year. we want them to sign up with the most authentic place to play, the nfl. >> the video is suddenly reinforcing the fantasy. >> time to pick me for your league. >> that's why you picked me. >> in 2006 the series launches online. >> pick me. >> within days each video racks up millions of hits. >> it took on a life of its own. >> i watched every one. it wasn't because i was in them. i thought, these are great videos. >> it's so cool because it does create a lot of conversation. some people believe that it's true. some people believe it isn't true. >> armchair quarterbacks across the globe try to tackle the authenticity of the video. >> my first impression is they're fake. if he can nail a disc flying in the air, he should have a lot more super bowl rings. >> when i first saw this i totally bought into it. >> it doesn't seem that out of the ordinary. they're athletes. why wouldn't they be able to do something lik

. >> you can track the rain on our web site with the abc 7 news weather app. free on a el app store or google play. also more information to our web site. >> director of the zoo spoke he motionally today about the death of the baby griing a two week ago. >> but also answering question from the i-team. zoo keeper involved in the incident and her colleagues believe the director is throwing her under the bus. >> we have a report seen only on 7 news. >> today commission meeting zoo director peterson showed a picture of little guerrilla born at the zoo but rejected by her mother. she was hand fed by zoo staff the first month of her life. but as zoo keeper tried to lock her in the sleeping quarters for the night friday november 7th, the baby guerrilla got caught beneath hydraulic door and died. >> it is an under statement to say that the worst night of my career is the night we lost her forever. simply said it was a tragic accident. >>reporter: just days after the guerrilla died she released several sensitive documents. zoo keeper handwritten note about what happened

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i was immediately told when i would take the stories to the web site that they would dominate the web site and attract all kinds of traffic so i don't think these decisions were made exclusively our holy with regards to what they thought viewers wanted to see. i think there were other factors at play. >> host: anything different in your mind or what you have seen between how an outlet approaches investigative reports versus what you want to? >> i think there are similarities. i again compared notes with some of my colleagues and some who are my acquaintances and friends and they describe similar pressures and similar trends. i concluded that there is something happening culturally within the industry. it doesn't mean there is no investigative reporting and no original reporting of course but i think other reporters will tell you these stories are harder flawed and many of them don't. one line that i use in the book is that people think a lot of effort goes into but putting great stories on television and would be surprised to know how much effort goes into it and i think that's a stor

we got on the web site. s begin this saturday. >> all right. we have another question now. this is a man from california who asked about the status of the web site. >> my name is nick zambrano from california. i'm curious to know if the web site will crash like last year with everybody trying to sign up and nobody has access. >> woodruff: that has to be the question on the minds of a lot of people. >> clearly. the government says it's cautiously optimistic that things will go much better. it is said that the capacity on first day will be able to handle as many as -- twice as many simultaneous users as tried toç sign up on first day a year ago. so the capacity should ensure that the web site doesn't crash with regularity. >> woodruff: what's your sense, mary agnes? >> that's certainly been the case.ç one thing to keep in mind is they talk about improve. but not perfection, giving themselves a little wiggle room, but you can't have a repeat of what happened a year ago. >> woodruff: now, this is another questi

the web is a democratizing force but not all web sites are created equal. putting something on your own personal tumbler is just not going to get the play that being on politico's web site will or cbs news.com or whatever. >> a good question. another question. yes sir. >> i have heard of some of your cartoons mike ross -- [inaudible] >> that's a very good question. >> the question is do i worry that i might do a cartoon that might cross a line of sensitivity including religion? the short answer is i don't give a dam about that and i don't think any cartoonist can or should care about that. your duty is to the high god of satire and it's not to the united states. it's not to the democratic party. it's not to my mom. it's too that god of satire so if it's funny and it's smart that i'm going to do it. now that said i don't intentionally try to, sometimes you end up causing offense inadvertently which i hate because i usually try to cause offense intentionally and sometimes you get a friendly fire situation where you are aiming at someone or you hit another grou

a million who have gotten insurance on the web. e -- including the 14 exvarious states, including nevada. we have 3 million people who are are on -- have insurance now because they are on their parent's insurance, can stay there until they are 26. >> after that the senator took a nap. he was exhausted by getting all that out. okay. so let's run down the stats. 9 million, what's that. >> no, no. he is wrong. at the time when he said that it was just over 8 million. he was close. >> he was a million light. >> 900,000, exactly. yes. now, i went on the obamacare web site today and it claims the number is 15 million. other experts say it's not that high. 13 million. >> people have insurance through the exchanges. >> people not insured before and are insured now. >> 15 million who didn't have any insurance. now are on some roles? >> that's what it claims. >> what's what the web site says. >> the actual number is even lower than that. 7.1 million. >> where does that come from? >> that's what the government says. >> i don't understand. if t

not in a secret way trying to trick the web crawlers. they're on to that now. at's sort of a thing that we used to do years ago. now as long as you write properly about the things that you want people to find, in thinking about the terms that they'll be searching to find you organically that will start happening. whereas social media you want engagement, you want quick little statements something that has a great picture. pictures aren't really going to do anything for seo but on facebook for example people have a great response emotionally to that picture and a quick little thing. >> it kind of goes back to predictable versus surprising because on the website. to have good seo you want to have good content that people are looking for and expecting to get it all wrapped together, and then also surprising and engagement fit together on the -- >> it does. and so you're right they shouldn't be twins but your website and your social media should be related. you don't want to feel like it's an entirely different brand when you go from one to the other so it's just wa

conforms with the highest levels of cyber-security protection in the private sector. >> reporter: the web site failure was so extensive last year, officials had to push up the sign-up period into late december, creating mass confusion about who was actually covered on january 1. this time, scott, with this being november, they wouldn't have time to fix a web site broken that badly and, so, the pressure is on. >> pelley: wyatt, thank you. republicans who want to blow holes in the healthcare law got more ammunition today from new videos featuring jonathan gruber, a consultant who helped write the law. last night, we showed you the clip in which he said the law passed thanks to "the stupidity of the american voter." well, nancy cordes now on what else he said. >> reporter: the latest clip to surface is from 2011. in it, gruber describes how obamacare's authors use deception the describe a new tax on high-end insurance plans to go into effect in 2018. >> the only way we could take it on was first by mislabeling it, calling it a "tax on insurance plan" rather than people, and we all know it's

the feature will be available on the web next year. th the head of product conference.nomy what the partnership means for dropbox users. userspbox has 30 million today. a lot of them use dropbox to get work done. office documents is a lot of office document. creating awesome experience around office and dropbox working together. they can take the office documents and edit them on mobile devices and on the web. how does it help dropbox's business? >> the more productive people are, the more engaged they are with the service, the more utility they get out of dropbox. >> another big move by microsoft is making office free on mobile. how big of a surprise is that to you? >> i think it's incredibly valuable to people who want to be productive. getting access to the best product there is is exciting. it's an incredible move up for them. the interesting things i read about dropbox is you are part of the shout oh -- shadow ip phenomenon. it's not officially used by my employer. how do you come out of the shadows and how much of that is part of

but traditionally bloomberg had not focused on the web. the core of the business is the bloomberg terminal, which is amazing information mortal. that's only available basically to financial professionals. but there's so much amazing data, there's so much amazing reporting that's being done within the bloomberg organization and there's even a fraction of that can get to the web in a way that makes sense. it's not that it's not going to theíb web but it's not, the strategy here hasn't been(pañ focused towards really making it sing on the internet. >> rose: how do you do that? >> i think it's a range of thing. part of it is actually just having people who will be web first. part of it is figuring out how to take the reporting and repackage it in some way that's great for the web that probably needs to be much more visual than it is. lotsgr more charts.maybe changing thef things. pulling out certain chunks. taking all the data. i mean there's this big obsession in journalism right now about data driven journalism. i think that comes from you

several hundred million users in the case of uc-web. these are at the cusp of monetizing their business. that is one factor why the margin is coming down. we are organically making significant investments in new areas, for example, our mobile operating system, local services and digital entertainment. these are all very new areas for us. it's early days. we are very long-term committed to making investments in these areas for future growth. >> jim cramer, thank you so much for coming on our show. if i can, i want to go back again and reference to what david said because the margin trend page is freaking people out. one is people feel, wait a second, do we have an amazon. i hate to put them in the same sentence because you are obviously much more profitable. facebook said it's a reset year. twitter spends more money, doesn't know what it's doing with it. i wonder if we are in a situation where you guys decided we have to grow so fast this margin will come down year after year, plus spend a lot of money because singles day is coming up. is

case to determine whether or not the subsidies for lower income families cover everyone who uses the web site or the low income families in california. >> an ebola patient if stable enough will be thrown to nebraska for treatment. >> those two window washers stranded outside of the 68th floor of one world trade center will talk for the first time about their harrowing experience. firefighters shattered a window on the building just to retrieve them. >> it's 5:44 on friday morning. time to check the forecast. how's the visibility out there, christina in. >> it's dropping off, especially in the north bay where we only have a quarter of a smile available to us. we have a good weekend shaping up. look at this, novato. one mile and three quarters in gilroy. this is definitely an inland valley event. 52 degrees in the south bay, 52 on the peninsula. the morning temperatures will stay steady because of that blanket of cloud overhead. it will burn off by lunchtime. but, yeah, weir got a lot of rain potentially on the way. and potentially a third one for the following weekend, which means if you

said to them about it, but had to be done. >> host: and another big story, health care, and the launch of this web site which as we all remember didn't go well for the white house at all. what do you make of, first, talk about the general coverage of it, and then talk about your own coverage. >> guest: i think the press was asleep at the switch. i include myself. i didn't look into healthcare.gov when it was being developed because when i finally did start looking into it -- and i was assigned to it like the other stories, three weeks in cbs said, please, start taking a look. when i started looking back, there were so many warning signals. there were congressional hearings, testimony evidence, security tests that didn't get conducted, there were things -- there was so many red flags, we didn't report them. we did mostly, i think, positive stories about -- and why do you think that happened? why is there a sort of blind spot? is there so much that's going on? it's too technical, it's a web site? how hard is it to build a web site? >> guest: why do you think? >> host: you know, i don't know. i think

we welcome our viewers who are watching us around the country on wgn america and on the web. our top story. the weather takes a turn. let's check in with wgn's jim ramsey in the weather office. >> and not talking about an accumulating snow. you can probably count on one hand the number of flights possible. >> linda advisory and a lakeshore flood advisory continues in effect for the southern shores of lake michigan >> between 45-50 mi. per hour. there may be some very impressive wave action. >> your looking at wave heights exceeding 14 ft.. >> down along the southern borders of lake michigan. >> jumping some rainout east of us. a look at the sustained wind currently between 50-30 m.p.h. with wind gust 37 mi. per hour wind gust said champagne. 33 mi. per hour wind gusts in chicago. it could easily see wind gust this afternoon. we will range between 40-45 mi. per hour. >> not a day to spend much time comfortably outdoors. we'll talk more about this on the half-hour. >>a school in the southwest suburbs is closed for the day because dozens of kids are home sick with the flu. w-g-n'

it has live anchors covering news on the web. what's the goal with cbsn. >> once again as more and more people are getting their information online and more and more people are getting the news of the day, not like they used to during the 6:30 news but at all times, we like the idea of people being able to go to their computer first thing in the morning whether they're at home or in their office, have a cup of coffee, and turn on cbsn and figure out what's going on. we like to call it as the cable bypass, going directly online and not needing to go to cable tell advice to gevision to get . >> the goal is maybe to put cnn out of business. >> no, nobody would ever want to put cnn out of business nor do i think we could. >> thanks for many my questions. it's great to see you. >> my pleasure. >> some big thoughts about the future of tv. send me a tweet or a message on facebook. i need to squeeze in a quick break. when i come back, big trouble in cable news. a ratings collapse for chris matthews, al sharpton and the rest of the folks o

this is part of a larger, spiritual landscape to the web look equal. -- the pueblo people. we are going to be walking on a trail. we see a volcanic expert -- escarpment. these black boulders came from several flows from the volcano. this is the easiest place to see petroglyphs. most of our hundred 50,000 bidders -- 150,000 visitors stop here. it is a carving on the rock. pueblo people use stone chisels and hammers to carve out the dark, black patina, exposing the rock. some people ask us how these petroglyphs were discovered. for the pueblo indians, they are as old as time. they have known about them since their creation stories. modern-day archaeologists date these images from 1200 to 1650. in the 1970's, archaeologists came out to the west mesa and begin to inventory these images. interest in these group. eventually, they became a national monument. to the pueblo people, they believed that the petroglyphs choose when and to whom to reveal themselves. sometimes it is the shadow. sometimes it is just the attitude and sensitivity with which we look at these petroglyphs image

." >> hello and welcome to the web news. we pick up the stories making the headlines.oming up on today's show, the reaction to the grand jury decision in the controversial michael brown shooting. outrage over the suicide of a student nurse in india and a rally driver and control specialist in los angeles. >> danche wilson, the white police officer who shot dead an unarmed black teenager michael brown in ferguson, missouri, on august 9, will not be facing criminal charges. after months of deliberation, the 12 members of the grand jury reached their decision on monday determining there was no probable cause to file any indictments against the police officer. the news has drawn heated reaction online and across the united states. many have taken to the streets in several large cities in the u.s. to voice their outrage over the decision which they say is a denial of justice. spontaneous rallies have been staged in new york city, los angeles, washington, chicago and also oakland with thousands gathering, shocked by the grand jury decision. tensions have been high and some d

his son is an -- comedy site on the web. his son is an aspiring comic and said, we should do that. id, that is great. we can create it but we need the content. we reached out to michael and he placed us in touch with gary sanchez productions, will ferrell, adam shea, and they were open to the idea. we set it up and shot a few videos and in april 2007, we launched it. we did not go on youtube. we sent out 10 e-mails and we put that film up, the landlord, will, the lamb lord being a three-year-old girl. adam's daughter. we thought, people will watch it. amazingly, three days later, we were getting 300 million video views in a day. that is the cause of the hard work of a lot of people. incredible. >> we were looking at the video, 10 hours of the man in new york walking around. who do you think possible buyers are here? >> i could not comment on it. i was on the board of directors until last year. i stepped down because i started another comedy company more , of an urban comedy company with a few of the wayans brothers. i am not privy to the negotiations, but i think there are a lot of

so, you know, there are different ways after achieving that result, the web page and e-mail to a large building and find the manager of the building, and the hoa and then they can do an e-mail blast, you know, there are newsletters, and there is all of these different things that can be done any more. and a lot of it is, you know, because of web access and e-mail and everything else, it is all good stuff, but i think that people need to get appropriate and adequate notice and like joe says, we call, we call these people and sometimes like if we wake up in the middle of the night we might say let's give this guy a call and see if he is there and he is not, that is not good. it might not get there the next noise permit. >> commissioner lee? >> in my mind i work over at public works and we get the complaints sometimes. the people will explain that he moved the instrument in front of the house and it makes a lot of noise. >> the contractor says that i was not working i was just moving something there, my question to you would be is there any activity that is allowed. >> yes, if it can be d