and with the foresight of charles douglas -- that it grew into over the years way past his lifetime.earn more about the cities and watch videos from historic sites around the country, visit c-span.org/local content. this is american history tv on c-span 3. >> project runway cohost tim gunn to discuss first ladies' fashion choices and how they represented the styles of the times in which they lived as well as their individual personalities. joining the panel is lisa kathleen grady, the curator of the first ladies collection of the national museum of american history. the national archives hosted this 90-minute event. >> hello, everyone. how are you? thank you for being here. we're going to have a rousing evening, i hope. certainly an interesting one and an interesting discussion. and i have to say, the whole topic of what the first lady wears, we know is frequent topic of discussion. and we have lisa kathleen grady here who wrote the book of the first ladies' collection. and i would speculate you run