. >> when, remind me when gary brt sort of formally started in terms of the process. ten years ago or -- >> ah, so the environmental process? started in 2008. the bus rapid transit was identified as a authority in 2004 in the long-range county-wide transportation plan and it was approved by voters in 2004 and it went through feasible studies. >> when did the feasible studies start? >> 2005? '4? 2004. >> so if this, assuming funding is not an issue and it gets done in 2020 presumably it is like a 16 year process. i know that we have the discussions before. i raise it again, not to pour salt in the wounds. but a constant remainder of the challenges we face in san francisco with project delivery. we talked about this before when we went to mexico city and it was what three years idea in someone's head to cutting the ribbon on brt. and i just -- how -- what's the current thinking of staff in terms of how we can -- in the future, because we want to do other brts, how can we make sure it doesn't take 16 years from the beginning of feasible study to cut the ribbon. >> chair,