in talking to haley barbour. but '70s of our brutal obol sides. but to little but that is good quality. but to put that all together. but just to ask you both whether it all these discussions with the policy center it is like on the one hand or the other hand. i am of skeptical about what you said because i keep coming back to people just like ted crews today one -- to name one. my question is with the idea but we are at a point of the problem is more of the republican side if there are too many people who come here to stand their ground. that is the basis because the voters want people to stand their ground. but it is all well whole different level now. could you address that question if one side is more to blame than another? >> i disagree with that there are problems. even an economist showed a circle and over the years there is no center so we have those in the republican party and in the democratic party. and she has say, dray of france and it was supported by partisan but you cannot get it moved because they said no we will not let you do th

that he's just at this stage, it is worth reminding everyone that we've seen politicians, whether haley barbour, the former republican governor of mississippi, evan beyh, i'm still not going to go through with it. important to know what this is and what it isn't. >> let me play what jeb bush said, the commencement speech just yesterday. i believe we have it. let's play it. >> we're seeing more and more that people often model their lives on their parents. their parents went to college, so do they. if their parents married late, so do they. if their parents go to church, so do they. and i can tell you from personal experience if your parents worked in politics, well, you know the rest. >> humor there but it's funny because it is true. we know it is his mother who said perhaps we should be at a point in our society the bush name and the clinton name are eliminated from the list of potential presidents. >> tamron, those last names can be a tremendous asset when it comes to fundrai-raising, to bee establishment candidate in your field. it's true for jeb bush, also hillary clinton if she decides to

there was a lengthy conversation with mitch mcconnell talking to haley barbour. he said, get down and help out cochrane. we tried it. it was tough. he is going to be chairman of the appropriations committee. some of these primaries are really tough. you have blanche lincoln of arkansas two years ago. sides, we came up with a pretty good quality member. >> you have talked on so many topics. immigration, trade, the affordable care act. i want to draw them all together .ere >> that is good. >> we used to think of it as a journal way. >in all of these discussions, on one hand, on the other hand, both sides are equally to blame. i am skeptical about what you said because i keep coming back re,people who are in the ted cruz, to name one. theuestion is, respond to idea that was put forward by thomas mann and norman ornstein that we are at a point where the problem is more on the manylican side and too people come here to stand their ground and not find common ground. that is the basis of the primary fight. the fighters -- the voters want people who stand their ground. i

that he's just at this stage, it is worth reminding everyone that we've seen politicians, whether haley barbour