and then the new south wales police commissioner and kathryn byrne.ll of them speaking but not necessarily revealing too much. we learned through those press conferences that negotiators were in contact with this gunman. and that you know, five hostages were released. but, you know, we, there's another ambulance that just drove past me a short time ago. they are all rolled up here in case something goes wrong. while it's a promising sign they are releasing these hostages, we don't know what could unfold over the coming hours. these things are volatile, extremely unpredictable. we don't know what the motives are of this gunman. we don't know what sort of statement he's wanting to make to the world. we don't know if he's operating with isis, whether he's a lone wolf, whether he's affiliated with a completely different group. but clearly he wanted the world's attention. he chose this cafe opposite, you know, major television network here in the heart of the city. so he obviously has some message that he wants to get out. he has the world's attention. we