broadcast, when it gets to that level, you have to say, whoa, we shouldn't have been calling leonardo desisable. but, you know, ceos -- i would set all that aside. sony has a real problem with its movie assets walkewalking out the door. like jennifer lawrence getting paid less than bradley cooper for america hustle. >> we're on the same floor and i don't walk to talk to her. neil: you do. it's the premadonna thing. >> we won't go back to writing notes. >> but if you're at the top level of an organization, that might be exactly what you should do. more face-to-face meetings. and avoid the email. as you suggest, very few ceos do a lot on email other than -- neil: i would lead a group of ceos. that's how i roll. not a won was into it. >> into what? neil: texting. emailing. and these weren't old guys. they're just not into it. >> first of all, it's a waste of time. but secondly, no matter what you say, as innocent as it may be, it could be interpreted a different way. >> i don't think david has a leg to stand on. if they punishable the entire script of james bond movie, that could be copyright.