teresa peyton, your reaction to that tonight? >> i'm not surprised, but i'm definitely devastated both for the company and for the customers of that company. here we are peak time of holiday travel, holiday shopping, and now they're going to have to get new cards reissued and deal with the inconvenience of that. dav dave:. gerri: we heard instances people's e-mail address is the information exposed. this is far more serious, the card numbers themselves, expiration dates, the card verification codes, everything you would use toude a credit card over the telephone or remotely. this seems to be more serious, do you agree? >> i absolutely agree, gerri, you are right, now they have all the information they need to use every channel, whether it's online, telephone or creating a counterfeit card that has all of this information on it. so basically, these cybercriminals hit the jackpot with this one. gerri: hit the jackpot. that sure is true. ambassador, i want to turn to you and the president, comments regarding sony, really interesting

with more on this former white house chief information officer teresa peyton and ambassador john boltonnior fellow with the american enterprise institute. welcome to you both. i want to start with breaking news just moments ago crossing on the ap. staples announcing they had an exposure of customer data previously announced in october, but only now are we

. >> reporter: teresa peyton is schettino of fortalice. said despite the pressure to fight back. >> you can actually make a bad situation go from bad to a catastrophe. you have no idea what you could be taking offline and doing that. it could be an energy utility server. it could be a financial services server of a small community bank. you don't know. >> reporter: now peyton told us she hopes the f.b.i. investigation will actually create a framework for companies that are facing these hacking threats, and jeff, lead to more clear rules of engagement in today's digital age. >> glor: jan crawford, thank you very much. a judge makes a ruling in a drug dispute that could save alzheimer's patients a lot of money. that story is next. took mucinex dm for my phlegmy cough. yeah...but what about mike? (cough!) it works on his cough too. mucinex dm relieves wet and dry coughs for 12 hours. let's end this. >> important message for residents age 50 to 85. write down this number now. right now, people are receiving this free information kit for guaran

with more on this former white house chief information officer teresa peyton and ambassador john bolton.n. and now senior fellow with the american enterprise institute. welcome to you both. i want to start with breaking news just moments ago crossing on the ap. staples announcing they had an exposure of customer data previously announced in october, but only now are we

with more on what to expect chief information officer teresa peyton. good to see you.i don't know if you got to hear peter. he's predicting more hacks in the coming year. do you agree, and what kind of hacks might we see? >> i agree i think sony was a watershed moment on a hack on so many levels. i agree, 2015 more data held for ransom, and hackers basically saying i'll give you your company back when i feel like it when you come up with my demands. secondly you're going to see more consumer data stolen. health care data. financial data. personal details about you that allow someone to masquerade online as you more credit card debit card data unfortunately will continue to be stolen. and you will see, in my opinion, you will see hack attacks literally leave the cyberspace and go into the physical where they turn off power. they set fire to a factory that they don't like what they're manufacturing. i think those are the types of threats coming into 2015. gerri: theresa, one of the things i'm curious all of the groups are on the same page. they don't agree on politics do

with more on this former white house chief information officer teresa peyton and ambassador john bolton to the u.n. and now senior fellow with the american enterprise institute. welcome to you both. i want to start with breaking news just moments ago crossing on the ap. staples announcing they had an exposure of customer data previously announced in october, but only now are we

for more on this, teresa peyton, president and ceo and former white house cio. welcome back to the show. great to have you here, teresa. let's start with this wiper malware. what is it and why is it so destructive? >> you know it is one of those pieces of malware that we haven't seen something this comprehensive in the past. this wipe every malware will literally create situation where you have no business continuity. they will literally take away your data and potentially make your computers inoperable. the bets way to protect yourself against this, have great data backups that have nothing to do with corporate network. if you're victim to the mall which are you can be back up running quickly. gerri: it erases data permanently. that the stuff goes away. this is amazing. we're used to hack attacks where people steal information. they want to steel credit card numbers. they want to rip off information that they are going to copy but does this tell us, this is state actors doing this? >> it could possibly be state actors, when you look at how involved this was. you

for more on this, teresa peyton, president and ceo and former white house cio. to the show. great to have you here, teresa. let's start with this wiper malware. what is it and why is it so destructive? >> you know it is one of those pieces of malware that we haven't seen s