. >> the other thing that's always been a demographic distinction between midterms and also turnout in presidential elections. for example, the midterm electorate is older and wider. in recent years, that demographic distinction has tacken on a much more partisan cast. it is easy to keep the house majority is a little harder but still quite doable to give a -- take a senate majority. you have to reach a little further. >> april, i will go to you. what is reform conservatism? is it a bunch of different ideas? is that we need to reform conservatism and let's do it? >> not offering anything new the principles has been around for a long time certainly over the last few decades, principle we are comfortable with and feel we need to be expanded upon her -- what reform conservatism is apply those principles as we face today. republicans often had no agenda on breaking down thought marginal tax rate which was pre-reagan confiscatory. a 70% rate. there was a real urgent need at the time to bring that rate down. we need to bring it down and he did and he was effective. partly because we were successful, a lot has become rather outdated. we have not been

new face on the scene and the president as you suggest correctly going all in on a progressive agenda. that polarizes and electorate that voted against the democrats in the midtermd make it tougher and tougher for any democrat, particularly former secretary clinton to win. dave: i am wondering to what extent he is doing things she would never considered doing all sorts of issues like energy, inventing al sharpton into the executive office to talk about what is going on with race relations. all this stuff seems counter to the moderate trend she wants to appear as. >> you wants to have a moderate trend for the electorate and she herself is a centrist. he wants also to cultivate the left wing of the party, the obama wing of the party because their populist, they want redistribution. is a delicate balancing act and one that i don't think she successfully navigate. liz: what legislative achievements or foreign policy achievements ken hillary clinton run on? what can she point to in her experience that our victories for her weathered is moderate, centrist, left-wing or right-wing, anything? >> i don't think she has a lot of accomplishments whether as a senator or secr

the value of a moderate immigration policy, they will continue to lose presidential races. presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state like we saw in the midtermlections. presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state like we saw in the midterm elections. a state like california or texas or florida or new york will have a greater impact on presidential elections when you have more minority-based voters coming to the polls. they do not come as often. the republicans have to deal with immigration but you listen to leslie on the phone and there is a hard-core constituency of the ones who show open primaries who have very distinct feelings on this issue. . guest: where we come from is political consulting. we are not talking about whether the policy should be an acted on but where these people should get elected. host: what is your experiment in the area? guest: i have been on for presidential campaigns. we have had to run these demographic numbers me talk about jeb bush jumping into a lead, i left these articles. all that matters is iowa, new hampshire and north carolina. it's obvious that the jeb

the value of a moderate immigration policy, they will continue to lose presidential races. presidential races are countrywide even though we have an electoral college, they are not state like we saw in the midtermons. a state like california or texas or florida or new york will have a greater impact on presidential elections when you have more minority-based voters coming to the polls. they do not come as often. the republicans have to deal with immigration but you listen to leslie on the phone and there is a hard-core constituency of the ones who show open primaries who have very distinct feelings on this issue. . guest: where we come from is political consulting. we are not talking about whether the policy should be an acted on but where these people should get elected. host: what is your experiment in the area? guest: i have been on for presidential campaigns. we have had to run these demographic numbers me talk about jeb bush jumping into a lead, i left these articles. all that matters is iowa, new hampshire and north carolina. it's obvious that the jeb bush name has immediate recognition. every republican candidate in some of the democratic candidates will be elevated during this campaign

the midterm elections. why hasn't been approval rating been higher, given the economic news? voters look at different, less positive data. as i've discussed here before, there is no consistent relationship between unemployment rates and electoralutcomes. voters look at their lives, how much money they are bringing in, and what you can buy. the economic statistic that most clearly reflects that realities change in real per capita disposable income, how much money people have to spend after taxes and what they can afford to buy with it given the cost of living. on that indicator, democrats is not very so well." mark on the line for republicans. good morning. caller: yes, i disagree with the fact that he should be given credit whatsoever. first of all, we're looking at december. these months are always a larger your november,so december months are always larger hiring months. that fact is a little bit weak. also, when you look at falling gas prices, that right there is stimulating the economy in huge raise. -- in huge ways. how is it that he can gain any kind of credit for that? i don'tin general, no, see how he can be given credit for if there was a policy created, that would be a different subject, and i cannot name one policy