outside the washington beltway, the dispute over whether justice has been done in the michael brown case has moved to the world of sports. >> they acknowledge the events in ferguson. >> reporter: the statement from several members of the st. louis rams has unmistakable as they took the field with their hands up in protest. and protests continue across the country, nearly a week after a grand jury decided not to indict officer darren wilson in the shooting death of michael brown. >> what do you want? >> justice. >> when do you want it? >> now. >> reporter: these demonstrations show no sign of slowing, even after wilson announced over the weekend he's resigning from the ferguson police force. in a letter to the department, wilson wrote -- i've been told my continued employment may put the residents and police officers of the city of ferguson at risk. ferguson's mayor said there was no direct threat against wilson, but he called the resignation a step in the right direction. wilson told abc's george stephanopoulos he loved his job but it would be impossible to keep. >> you don't think it wo

you are a policy man, washington man, person of the beltway. what can washington do, if anything, to pick up this problem? >> it's a crazy situation. who would have thought kim jong-un would be the uniter not a divider, bringing america together. it presents an interesting problem. this is a nation that barely has electricity, already economically isolated. the usual tools that you would apply to a rogue nation you cannot with north korea. there are a couple of things. maybe they can lean on the chinese to interfere with financial transactions, stop some of their diplomats, but it is hard. >> cyber terrorism is a form of economic espionage in the government is taking it seriously. is there something the government can do to help sony? new yorker magazine said the government should step in and say we will subsidize sony if there are losses on the film. what about that idea, the government trying to subsidize somehow help free expression? >> i don't think you want government jumping in and backstopping the private market. they need a policy respon

personal level, a fight on a ski lift in montana somewhere, or it's a big scale fight in washington that the beltwayy notice until it's way too late. usually what happens when there's a fight like this is that the far right wins. mainstream doesn't like to fight with their right flank. when the right flank wins and they fight these things out, they usually get their way. day counting. >> good morning. right now first look, heavy flooding and dangerous mudslides in california after months of drought. how is the golden state coping. >> bill cosby alleged with sexually assaulting a woman when she was just 15 years old. >> domestic violence in every community costs our great nation. >>> a senate hearing on domestic violence in pro sports. plus, a shark photo bombs an australian surfing competition, and the latest installment of brian williams slow jamming the news. good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us y.

personal level, a fight on a ski lift in montana somewhere, or it's a big scale fight in washington that the beltway until it's way too late. usually what happens when there's a fight like this is that the far right wins. mainstream doesn't like to fight with their right flank. when the right flank wins and they fight these things out, they usually get their way. tick tock, watch this space. good evening, lawrence. >> we're getting ready to talk about the mainstream republican family here. will there be another president bush? >> oh, gosh 37. >> yes, probably. thanks, lawrence. >> jeb

personal level, a fight on a ski lift in montana somewhere, or it's a big scale fight in washington that the beltwayy what happens when there's a fight like this is that the far right wins. mainstream doesn't like to fight with their right flank. when the right flank wins and >> jeb bush wants to be the next president bush, but he only wants it if he can run on his own ferms.

they are voting for an office and that is an inside washington beltway issue. >> maybe it depends onthey are running for. if you're running for the presidency of the united states and a united states senator running for re-election i would think that would give people a little pause. what do they want to do. >> hedging your betts? >> what do they want to do. >> does not look all in. coming up how the deal with cuba impacts trade and commerce. secretary penny pritzker joins us for an exclusive "morning joe" interview. also she's reported on ex-extensively throughout her career. soledad o'brien joins us. and some say north korea's hack started the first cyber war. we have the very latest when "morning joe" comes right back. the holiday season is here, which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you

personal level, a fight on a ski lift in montana somewhere, or it's a big scale fight in washington that the beltway doesn't really notice until it's way too late. usually what happens when there's a fight like this is that the far right wins. mainstream doesn't like to fight with their right flank. when the right flank wins and they fight these things out, they usually get their way. tick tock, watch this space. good evening, lawrence. >> we're getting ready to talk about the mainstream republican family here. will there be another president bush? >> oh, gosh 37. >> yes, probably. thanks, lawrence. >> jeb bush wants to be the next president bush, but he only wants it if he can run on his own ferms. -- term, republican primary voters be damned. >> on the republican side it's going to be a gang fight. >> jeb bush talking about 2016. >> i kind of know how a republican can wip, whether it's me or somebody else. >> opening up about his possible presidential run. >> lose the primary and win the general without violating your principles. >> tell the party of ted cruz and that sort that he, jeb bush, has n

jack taylor has the latest in is >> thec is very it georgee is between washington and the beltway, both same deal, earlier crash off the 14th, finally clear. southbound before randolph road, accident activity in the right lane. on the outer loop of the beltway an accident, the traffic that you see on the right side, two left lanes are closed after georgia avenue. this is not been a great morning. >> tomorrow looks a lot better. is that we have had very little reports of freezing precipitation or even sleep. despite00 this morning the brightness on the radar pictures here, be aware that there could be more but overall we are looking at wet weather and wet roads with the winter weather advisory affect in the morning. temperatures falling into the 30's. thank you for joining us. we will see you back here in about 30 minutes. >>> good morning, america. it's 8:00 a.m. and how safe is your car seat? why the government is investigating the largest child seat recall in u.s. history. >>> and is broth the new super food? inside the hot new high protein health craze. is it really a safe way to los

new year's night is looking cold as temperatures around 30 degrees inside of the beltway. 20 for those of you in washington. the first weekend of 2015 we have rain in the forecast. i'm going to let you know the latest timing on that rain coming up in ten minutes. but for now, we'll send things over to melissa with a look at the roads. >>> just a bit of construction here and there. a lot of it will be out of the way by 5:00 this morning, so nothing to worry about too much. 95 in virginia southbound at 644 we have two left lanes only getting by because of road work. and 123 at colshire drive two right lanes are blocked until 5:00. the inner loop and outer loop, no problems. a lot of movement as we should this time of the day. it's still nice to see. 95 in maryland at cherry hill road is rolling right along. no issues there. the same thing as you take a look at 270 southbound at montrose with all the folks headed to the spur. these folks are headed northbound near frederick. more in ten minutes. >>> reaction after the virginia congressman said one of his colleagues spoke to a white supremacist group. >>> and

. >>> up next, "the washington post" takes us beyond the beltway to tell us what the trends will be in 2015. premium milk veggies, orange wine calgon, take me away! snoou. >>> new zealand clicked off 2015 counting down the new year with huge fireworks display at midnight. australia entered the new year in style as well. lighting up the skies over sydney's iconic harbor bridge in their annual fireworks show. more than a million people gathered for that event. back here in new york preparations under way in times square. you can see it there on your screen for the big ball dropping tonight. this year tens of thousands will be here to celebrate and there's even more variables at play. stephanie gosk is in times square. happy new year. >> happy new year's eve to you. i don't know if you can tell from the warmth of your studio chair, but it is very very cold here in times square. that's not going to stop people from pouring in. it's amazing every year times square goes through this amazing transformation. in this short period of time this crossroads in manhattan becomes this massive interna

strategy is not realistic is that it is so disconnected from the view of reality outside of washington and the beltway. and there are so many polls that show this. but interestingly, i think a lot of astute observers of u.s. foreign policy have known this for some time and talked about it for some time. one of my favorite lines is from a book that didn't set as much attention as it should have called america at the crossroads. most people focused on this was a neoconservative. this rests on a belief in american exceptionalism that most non-americans simply find not credible. the idea that the united states behaves disinterestedly in the world stage is not widely believed, because it is for the most part not true, and indeed, could not be true of america, if american leaders fulfilled their responsibilities to the american people, right? we expect that any country around the world, when it executes a foreign policy, its primary obligation is the interest of its people. and a core element, a core aspect of american exceptionalism is that we are different and do not behave that way. but i think it is har

washington. this has gone inside and outsides the beltway. also joining us is jason, he's yak man asset manager. he has owned dish. knows the company inside and out. first to you, gary. obviously sony at this point is saying, you know what, we've got to get this movie out. this is way bigger than losing money. we're not afraid. going to figure out a way, but dish backed out. why do you think that happened? >> liz, too many companies are afraid of liability. (?) right now we're all blinking when we shouldn't. it is un-american to hold up their first amendment right for creative freedom of expression. we should all stand and up find a way to watch this film. as stupid or funny as it may be wide receiver liz: jason, you've known dish and other satellite companies very closely. what do you think is in the inner workings of dish's saying enabl inability to say yes. >> clearly viewers and people don't have the necessary information that's within the realm of the political. they're trying to evaluate what steps are for the long-term of the dish shar

northbound on the george washington parkway a bigger crash just before the beltway has been moved.of mixed. most of the rain is out of here. we have some spotty sprinkles across west virginia and northern maryland. we have got a lot of cloud cover. that should be improving this afternoon with temperatures improving. 44 at reagan national, that is where we were all day yesterday, making it into the 50's this afternoon. clouds to the north, meaning fredericksburg, 60 degrees, 57 and d.c.. cooler temperatures. >> thank you for watching. we will be back at noon. announcer: it's "live! with kelly & michael." today, academy award winner meryl streep. and from the new film, "wild," actress laura dern. plus, fashionable presents courtesy of darren darren as we continue -- lawrence zarian as we continue "live"'s holiday gift guide. we next on "live." now, here are kelly ripa and michael strahan! [cheers and applause] ♪ michael: ok. that's better.

it is good to shake off inside the beltway every now and then. you know, washington, right? as we heard 80 miles south of here, arthur grant, sherman, one way or another ureter base here. as a friend from mississippi said, you have a lot of bloody from your state. [laughter] i guess it depends what side you are on. last night but anyway. one question i get about my book, "the real custer" is why is that the title? obliges this make you about the real custer? the easiest way to answer that question is to say that is what the publisher wanted. okay, that is the title. but i think it is really better to view it not as a conclusion, like this is the real custer, but more like a question. who was the real custer? what do we know? little bit corn is so pervasive when you talk about george custer. if the ad is the whole man, the mistakes he made on that day. that is not the case. he had a whole life in the whole carrot or any disabled person. the book is about trying to get to the root of that question here too was this man? if we can strip away all the things said then. all of the

beltway to spout run. work is getting ready to begin. a complicated commute for thousands thanks to this growing sinkhole in the southbound lanes of george washington parkway. >> [indiscernible] >> with the southbound lanes from 120 32 stout run shutdown, the backup continues to build. >> i just want to go home. >> that is exactly what colleen tried to do, only when she tried median,a u-turn in the she got stuck in the mud and had to wait longer for a tow truck. >> [indiscernible] >> police discovered the just after 7:00 last night after four cars trying to avoid the rupture in the road collided. >> it is about 10 feet by five feet. engineers lookl to the washed up of this morning, it was determined that both lanes need to be dug up, repaired, and repaved. >> [indiscernible] we will take a live look here. you can see those pieces are wrote inside the whole. they are working to get all of the water in their out, and speaking of the rain, right now the rain has stopped. they hope to get this process under way will stop they will work on this action of the road first before they dig up the second half of the road and begin paving stop the -- begin pav

washington and clinton over to boe and laurel. light rain there. east in anne arundel. a few scattered sprinkles in 95. all the roads are wet. 95, the beltway, 66, 57, 270, 95 and 29 in maryland too and 50 east. it's all wet this morning from the overnight sprinkles, even though it may not be raining there now. >> temperatures thankfully all above freezing. nearby suburbs in the mid and upper 30s to 40 in washington. farther to our west, temperatures too are above freezing. in fact, some mild air in the shenandoah valley. 46 now. oakland is normally a cold spot. they're at 46. mild air is coming our way today. you're going to need a light jacket this morning. have an umbrella ready. you'll be able to shed your light jacket by later this afternoon. at the bus stop this morning, a chance of sprinkles with temperatures in the 30s between 7:00 and 8:00. 8:00 and 9:00, mid 40s. after that, reaching the upper 50s in the afternoon. as we get into 2:00, 3:00. by this time tomorrow morning, cold, in the 30s. next chance of rain at 4:51. melissa, how are the roads? >> looking at 95 in virginia. northbound, sound, pretty nice. pretty good commute ther

i-95, baltimore-washington parkway doing alright, but looking for a crash southbound. here is what it looks like at the beltway at river road. it is hard to tell. and just slow traffic here and there on 395 headed south to the pentagon and on the left side of the street into southbound traffic, but no incidents along the way. wtopbob immler on the traffic center. >> up next on abc seven news at 4:00, the movie industry does not like it when 0 >> sony is investigating a hack involved five yet to be released movies online. interview. lists north korea on the of a cyberattacks on the studio, and it for some employees to use gmail accounts to communicate. >> north korea? those comedy stars plotting to kill north korean leader kim jong yield -- kim jong il. a hacker group called the gop, the guardians of peace, is taking responsibility for the attack, and over the weekend, several pirated copies showed up online, including the brad pitt film "fury" and the remake of "annie." the theft of its contact is a criminal matter and that they are working hard to address it. a north korean government website called"the inter

washington. here's a live look at nationals park which we realize is not technically outside the beltway, but our producers are really excited for the nhl winter classic that takes place here tomorrow. in fact i know at least two of those producers headed to the game tomorrow while i'm getting ready to host this show, not that i'm bitter. a lifelong blackhawks fan and heroic veteran will be honored at the game. here's a live look outside and inside the beltway with a special report. sorry, chicago, but go, caps. we'll be right back and bring you the news. protected. given new hope. during the subaru "share the love" event, subaru owners feel it, too. because when you take home a new subaru we donate 250 dollars to helping those in need. we'll have given 50 million dollars over seven years. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. >>> north koreans may have been framed. there is new evidence suggesting tonight they couldn't have been behind the sony hack attack as the mystery deepens. we look at the changing narrative and an administration that's not ready to accept it. >> reporter: kim jong-unmig

washington. this area in green down 95 between springfield, fredericksburg. north and east along route 50, 29, 95 and the beltway, it's all wet. southeastern montgomery and anne arundel. upper 30s to near 40 degrees. this will brighten your move. storm team 4 national harbor live camera. wilson bridge. and everything is damp. later today, you'll just need a light jacket. have the umbrella for just early this morning. and you can ditch the umbrella later today. we'll have damp roads for the morning commute. 30s and near 40 degrees. 50s during the afternoon with dry roads. the weather coaster ride tomorrow continues. upper 40s friday. a lower chance of rain on sunday and monday. i'm back in 10 minutes. melissa is looking at problems on this wednesday morning. >> brand-new crash eastbound at leesburg pike swished to one lane. slow through that area. # 6 into town, out of town, fine. that's not so bad. 95 headed north through triangle, slow the entire way. lorton, 45 miles per hour. top of the beltway starting to slow. a little bit of a sheen because of the rain we have seen this morning on prince george's county. l

washington for us. tracie, what are you hearing about today's announcement? >> reporter: well, we're hearing it likely will happen today and carter is fairly well known here inside the beltway, not so much outside the beltway, but he's the man that the white house thinks can handle a number of issues now facing the military. isis, afghanistan, ebola, sexual assault, the military's got a full plate. >> the next two years is another -- another zone, i think, of kinds of challenges for this country. and leaders have to be wise enough to know that. >> reporter: defense secretary chuck hagel is out, and there are strong indications his former deputy ashton carter will be named today as hagel's replacement. >> whoever that person is they will be very clear about what the chain of command is. >> reporter: the white house won't confirm, but praised carter earlier this week. >> he's somebody that certainly deserves and has demonstrated strong bipartisan support. >> reporter: but the outgoing democrat and incoming republican over the committee in charge of confirmation hearings agree. carter is a weapons expert who managed chief budget cuts in the defense department, but can he crack

it's unfortunate that in washington we like to play the finger-pointing game. this is an inside the beltway discussion. the outside the beltway discussion should be where is america headed. you know, in poll after poll the more than people always say we're going in the wrong direction. it's like 65%, 70%, is america headed in the right direction, yes or no? they always say no, but they never say what direction they're supposed to go in. that's the leadership's responsibility. so i wrote this book to stay out of partisan politics because what i hope is that people will look at it on both sides of the aisle and say, you know, there's a chance to work together on this and make the country better. let's set aside the partisan politics. i think the american people are so tired of partisan politics, and this name calling and the ads that are on television night after night after night. i mean, they just want us to go in the right direction, do the right things for the country and to work together in a collegial fashion. and i hope we can do that, and i hope this book will provide enough discussio

intricacy, what's happenings tonight in washington less than three hours away from the government shutdown. what aes happening tntd is something that the beltway press totally miss. our amazing, well-funded, very well-regarded bell e beltway press had no idea this was coming. beltway prasz e press has been assuring us for weeks that there's no way this would happen. they say they have a plan. they're sure it will not happen. but, you know, if you don't just write down what they say and rngs instead, look around you and rort on the political activity you can see, this was not all that hard to see coming. d first signs of it were on the right. once they started explaining to reporters what their brilliant plan was and placate their angry tea party base and definitely steer very far clear of a government shut down. as soon as they floeted the basics of that flannel, the right and the republican party got valely mad. the heritage foundation is a conservative activist group. when republicans in congress this year explained their plan, the heritage foundation went nuts. think eve been saying over and over and over again that the republicans plan to

saturation of the coverage that we get of washington politics, what happened tonight, and how close we got to the shutdown the night is something that the beltway press totally missed. and the beltway press had no idea that the drama was coming to nougat, and they had -- tonight, and they had been assuring us no chance of, this and the leadership in congress, and particular willy speaker john boehner and he said, hey, listen, i have a plan, and no drama and no threat of the shutdown, and the beltway press dutifully wrote it down, they have a plan and this is not going to happen, and therefore, we are sure it won't happen. but you know, if you don't write down what they say and instead, you look around at the political active they visibility around you, this is something that more people should have seen coming, right? the first signs that this is going to be a dramatic thing, and a narrowly averted shutdown or possibly a shutdown and the first signs of the real drama here came from the right. and once the house republicans explain odd the reporters the brilliant plan and how to keep the government fund and placate the tea party base and definit

washington, right? for all of the saturation level coverage that we get of all these things in war politics. what happened tonight is something that beltway press totally missed. they have no idea any drama was coming to night. they've been assuring us for weeks there would be no worry. speaker john baner said, listen, i will make sure there is no shutdown. oh, they have a plan. they are sure this won't happen. but if you don't write down what they say and look around to the political activity around you, this is something that more people should have seen coming. first thing this would be a dramatic thing or possibly a shutdown, first sign there was real drama here came from the right. once the republicans started explaining to reporters what they were do and playcate their angry tea party base and definitely steer clear of government shutdown, as soon as they floated basics of that plan, the right got really mad. in way that was visible. the last government shutdown was about year ago and republicans in congress explained their brilliant plan for not having a government shutdown this time around. heritage foundation went nuts. they said

beltway. with more, here's jonathan karl. >> reporter: obviously a big year for republicans. but 2014 was an especially big year for republican women. >> thanks to all of you, we are heading to washington, and we are going to make 'em squeal! >> reporter: their biggest winner, joni ernst, the first woman elected to the senate from iowa. the first female combat veteran elected to the senate from any state. >> i grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. >> reporter: and the first to launch a campaign like this. >> washington is full of big spenders. let's make them squeal. >> reporter: joni ernst wasn't the only republican woman to make history. shelley moore capito. >> for the first time in the history of west virginia, we are sending a woman to the united states senate. >> reporter: in utah, mia love became the first black republican woman elected to the house of representatives. in new york, elise stefanik, the youngest woman ever elected to congress. only 30 years old. >> i'm back! >> reporter: 2014 was the year hillary clinton solidified her standing as the presumptive democratic nominee. >> have we ever seen such a formidable front-runner on the democratic side who was not an incumb

self, thatut your you are a washington area native, where you went to school, and how you got this job. >> i grew up. right outside the beltway, i left to go to school at duke and then went to a company that i don't talk about very much, which is in boston. hisses from the crowd! [laughter] consultingack into for a year or so, and then got a went andy break, and that alreadympany had a business formula in place. it was a company called the advisory board. we turned into two companies, what is called the advisory board, what is called the corporate executive lord, and they essentially do the same thing on strategies and operations, both are -- executive board, and they essentially do the same thing on strategies and operations, both are located here in washington, d.c. i walked into the office of management and budget and had never had experience with that before, so i took my private sector experience into the public sector. i have had a very lucky and interesting and her chin it run interesting run. >> you sell yourself short i not talking about the saving of healthcare.gov, which you spent a little time working on and fixin

beltway by surprise. that's why the headliner in the democratic party leading the fight was seen to be elizabeth warren, and it's sub specific. this is her wheelhouse. this is how she came to washington in the first place, right. she first became known as a public figure because she was tapped by president obama to over see the bailout. that's why she became the democratic household name. it's not an accident that she is the democrat that is scene as throwing the first punches in this fight and it's not an accident that her first press conference on this was with maxine waters, and liberals, right? it's not because they wanted to pound their chest a little bit. it's subject specific. it's not an accident that the prominent former member of congress who put out a statement on this, and calling it outrageous, it is not an accident that they called barney frank, and it's not because barney frank is a beloved liberal, but he used to run the committee, right? it's subject specific. the other one whose name keeps turning out about working the fight behind the scenes, sherry brown, the senator from ohio. it's because brown is about to be the top ranking democrat on the banking committee in

tell us about yourself, that you are a washington area native, where you went to school, and how you got this job. >> i grew up right outside the beltway, i left to go to school at duke and then went to a company that i don't talk about very much, bain, which is in boston. >> no hisses from the crowd! [laughter] >> one opportunity brought me back to washington. i went back into consulting for a year or so, and then got a very lucky break, and went and joined the company that already had a business formula in place. we were about 100 people. it was a company called the advisory board. years wee next 15 , turned into two companies, what one is called the advisory board, one is called the corporate executive board, and they essentially do the same thing on strategies and operations, both are located here in washington, d.c. they now employ over 5000 people and both are independent, public companies. i was lucky enough to be the chairman of both companies when they went public. i had never stepped foot in the federal government before. i eventually walked into the office of management and budget and had never had experience with that befor

beltway republicans. grimm prevailed politically but his guilty plea and subsequent sentencing due in june may bring his congressional career to an end. for "cbs this morning," major garrett, washington one teaspoon can be the equivalent of drinking 25 cups of coffee. 18-year-old logan steiner was a star wrestler at his high school in ohio, prom king and top studwith o ooh. caffeine powder just once. he overdosed and died. kate steiner is logan's mother. >> he had no idea what he was doing. none. i do believe at the last minute he realized what happened and probably shook his head. >> reporter: the coroner's report showed that logan had a lethal amount of caffeine in his system when he died. it's easily purchased online as seen in this youtube video posted by a man who says he ordered 25 grams of powdered caffeine through ebay. this form of caffeine is classified as a dietary supplement and is not regulated by the government. the caffeine in coffee, tea and other beverages is regulated. dr. robert glatter is a physician at lennox hill hospital. >> teenagers and young adults are getting this powder to lose weight and as a workout supplement and trying to study longer hours and it's se

beltway republicans. grimm prevailed politically but his guilty plea and subsequent sentencing due in june may bring his congressional career to an end. for "cbs this morning," major garrett, washingtonrning is looking at legal options to target companies that sell pure caffeine in powdered form. it's not hard to find but the government warns it's extremely dangerous. vicente arenas is here with one family's tragic story. >> reporter: even a small amount of powdered pure caffeine can be deadly. one teaspoon can be the equivalent of drinking 25 cups of coffee. 18-year-old logan steiner was a star wrestler at his high school in ohio, prom king and top student with a scholarship to the university of toledo. in the last week of his senior year of high school, he tried caffeine powder just once. he overdosed and died. kate steiner is logan's mother. >> he had no idea what he was doing. none. i do believe at the last minute he realized what happened and probably shook his head. >> reporter: the coroner's report showed that logan had a lethal amount of caffeine in his system when he died. it's easily purchased online as seen in this youtube video posted by a man who says he ordered 25 grams

washington area native. tell us where you grew up, we went to school, and how you up a new job -- wound up in your job. >> i grew up here, just outside the beltway left to go to school at duke, and then straight to a company that i didn't talk a lot about a period of time. >> no hisses -- >> know, but i had a great experience at dane. i had a couple entrepreneurial opportunities, one of which brought me back to washington. went back into consulting for a year or so, lucky break and joined a fellow names david bradley, who started a company about a decade earlier. the heavy e entrepreneurial lifting of figuring out a business formula. were about 100 people, and it was a company called the advisory board. we oss the next 15 years, turned that into two companies. same thing, hly the prescription-based research. headquartered here in d.c. and we now employ, between them, over 5000 people. are independent, public companies. so i was lucky enough to be the chairman of both companies when they went public. i have never stepped foot in the federal government before. i walked into the office as the deputy for management and the chief performance officer.