when those guys are running long and the fuel was running out charlie was the capcom. he was the guy communicating from nasa control center to buzz. so i guess nobody better to take us through those tense minutes than charlie. talk about 11. and remember, take us back. >> before i do that, first, jim, good to be back with you in the explorers club. it's always a pleasure to be invited to have the opportunity to speak to the members and the public. and so thank you for coming. and i hope you enjoy our 45 minutes, an hour, or whatever we have here together. so i was very privileged to work on apollo 11 and mission control. the team that was on apollo 10 that did the lunar activation and checkout, of which i was the capcom, we just sort of moved over to apollo 11 for that same phase. and the only additional thing was going to be the landing. apollo 10 went through the descent, didn't land. came back up, aborted. then rendezvoused. well, we're gonna do the whole thing. and so i've got to give mission control credit during this descent. and all of the troubles and problems