. >> derreon pollard you work in a state where he the governor thinks that the state of is too big. will it be easy to get states to come on board? >> i don't think it will be easy but some of the best things in life are not easy. the governor has articulated a commitment to economic development. what i have said to every person i have talked to is economic development. that's what community colleges do exceptionally well. we have to have substantive communications about the financing, the state of maryland every dollar that is spent at the university of maryland $0.19 goes to the community colleges from the state. if we want to have a conversation in the ways that we create a pathway to higher education, to work that is available in the community, we have to have a conversation about how we finance it. >> what don't you know about this plan yet that you really need to know? >> one of the things that i'm very excited about and i want to see it happens is the idea if this program will allow for career technical education which pell grants won't pay for to allowed to be paid for in th