my point is that of the earlier panel which i think what i was kind of getting at this fundamental question do we have enough knowledge to do that in a method that improves our score. no. yes, in terms of analysis. i would answer your question we should do that in terms of analysis but we're not there in terms of choosing a score. >> i want to turn to the audience -- we'll have times for a few questions at the end about tax but i would like to start with people who have a question about the nontax bills. tell us who you are. >> i'm vick miller independent fiscal economist. one of the things we knew working was that we wanted to get the assumptions out of the way so we could argue policy at the house. here we have a rule that's a house rule. rich cogan has pointed out will have impacts not on the spending side but also on the revenue side. and steve has said this will be taken care of in the budget resolution. are you assuming that the senate will implicitly assume this for its budget reasons. >> i don't have knowledge of that what i meant to say to the extent the official scoring process in

which i the the earlier panel which i think what i can getting at this point in the question do we have enough knowledge to do that in a method that improves our score, no. just in terms of analysis would answer your question we should do that. we're not there yet in terms of choosing a score. >> i want to turn to the audience and ask we will have time for a few questions at the end about tax because like to store the people of a question about the nontax stuff. telecine were. >> dick miller, independent physical because there of work both in only be as a fiscal economist and a few years for dead must be. we knew we wanted to the assumption out of the way so we could argue policy. so here we have the rule house rule that rich has pointed out has impacts not only on those things that also the revenue side. see visit to be taken care of in the budget are you serving the senate will explicitly assume this rule and put together the budget -- a budget resolution? >> i don't have knowledge of that. what images they come to the extent the official scoring process incorporates macroecon

. >> given the earlier panel with law-enforcement leaders i cannot refer which person talked about the jobs that the officers are given and it extends beyond law-enforcement and i am glad that question was asked about education. the over criminalization has not only permeated the community but the place of opportunity and development and that is the school talking about the pipeline the criminal-justice apparatus and what does that mean? the looks that they get from the police is happening inside the school building and second police are increasingly used to engaged in disciplinary practices within the school and also students are increasingly being pushed into the criminal-justice system. we found the complaint two years ago were high school students were given in a criminal misdemeanor ticket forswearing for using profane language. that they assure diversity pipeline those who now cannot serve as police officers with the record so if we think of the issue of over komer and -- criminalization the low hanging fruit is the school. we have to deal with the reality we have children who ha

i'm only going to have a few questions and we can make encourage people who were on earlier panels tobert, tell me if i got this right. do you have to express an opinion about whether the government has a greater than 50% probability of meeting its fiscal targets? >> yes, we do. that, therefore, requires us to prod;@"ip oint estimate median forecast in order to say whether they fall on the right side of that. yes, we do. it's interesting the formal fiscal targets are not the only thing politicians are interested in aiming at. we have two formal fiscal targets at the moment and one isn't achievable and the other isn't binding. so, actually, the government is focused on other things like the particular date on which it expects to balance the overall budget, what the path of the deficit is on a year by year basis. you're absolutely right. that's the formal role. it's not necessarily the thing policy makers are most worried about most of the time. >> i see. there's been -- deb talked some about what this is like from the policy maker side. do you find -- chuck suggested maybe the british

as we learn from an earlier panel, inversions seek to exploit when it's a u.s. corporation or a foreign corporation. it's an attempt to gain the advantage of being a foreign corporation. and there are three tax objectives. reduce the u.s. tax through use of earnings stripping interest royalties and other deductible payments. to avoid u.s. tax on past foreign earnings, and to avoid u.s. tax on future foreign earnings. so i would favor an approach that addresses all three problems. the presentation, it seems to me showed that foreign acquirers are at an advantage. and those advantages are there for foreign-owned u.s. affiliates. that should be reduced by enhancing earnings, and in my view already sufficiently an issue and problem that i do think the treasury should move forward on the second step and more stringent earnings stripping rules until fundamental reform is revisited. second second, that accrued under rules that clearly provided for deferral. and my view is with respect to those earnings, the time to pick up the u.s. tax has been deferred should be when

. >> it is interesting that in the earlier panel with law enforcement leaders, i cannot remember which person talked about the job that police officers are being given, and that it kind of extends beyond law enforcement. i am really glad the question was asked about education. the over criminalization rick was talking about has not only permitted the community, but also what must be the safe space , the place of opportunity and development for young people. that is the school. when we talk about the school to prison pipeline, we are talking about the migration of the criminal justice apparatus into the school. what that means is the look that young people are getting at the police is not happening just in and counters on the street, it is happening in the school building. secondly, it means that create -- police are increasingly being used to engage in disciplinary actresses and the school. -- practices in the school. it also means students are being pushed into the criminal justice system. we filed a complaint with ocr against a high school in texas where students were given criminal

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not to beleaguer what was discussed in the panels earlier but there are lots of different studies out there that prove there is a problem or issue with regard to drowsiness and driving. so one of the focus areas for us, we truly appreciate an industry all the research because this helps us to drive our innovation. internally this helps us to focus our inventive efforts in finding what are the right solutions through technology within the vehicle. so i just wanted to commend all of those that have done studies that we wish from an industry perspective that you continue doing this because it helps us to understand where we can focus our innovative efforts. so a little bit about what we're doing at bosch. we have a long history, we do actually do our own accident research. we work closely with consortiums, we work closely with academia to understand where the areas of concern are. specifically, one of the things that we've been focusing on is that we've done some research on inattentive detection of driver drowsiness. this research started in 2001. it was a video-based eyelid research, b

some of the challenges they face were articulated on the panel earlier on. the attitude and the behavior of the cuban government matters. with canada, there has been a huge focus on tourism. canadian tourists going to cuba and services being provided and then you see a focus on basic industries. a report in the press recently with asian economies, they sell cars buses, transportation equipment. some relationships in biotech and pharmaceutical sectors between cuba and china. everything is still really nascent. someone asked about, how behind the curb -- how behind the curve are u.s. companies? i do not think the race has even started yet. i think the growth in trade and investment will come as the cuban economy grows, as cuban attitudes start to change. >> john, not to put you on the spot, but do you thing -- but do you have anything to add on the experience of other companies that have been able to do with -- deal with cuba? >> we worked with members of the organization and we have had government trade groups. most countries, i will use an example of farm eq

not receive payment so i think some of the challenges that they face were taken later here on a panel earlier on this morning which is in the attitude of the bay where the cuban government that matters and how they participate in trade and investments. i think with candidates than the huge focus on tourism and d.c. canadian tourists going to cuba and services being provided and then you see a focus on basic industries. i know in a report in the press recently with asian economies they sell cars and a cell buses and transportation equipment. there are some relationship in the biotech and pharmaceutical sectors between cuba and china but i think everything is still really nascent. someone asked how behind the curve are u.s. companies that they are trying to get into cuba with foreigners there already? there is no advantage to having been there for 10 years or if there is it's very specific to a couple of sectors. the growth in trade and investment will calm as the cuban economy grows and as cuban attitude start to change and his things on the ground started changing cuba. >> jono to put you on

panel. [applause] mary is coming back and along with richard part of that conversation earlier all of that panel richard trumka has been a very local fighter for justice speaking out on race so we appreciate you. don't go anywhere we're coming back and we have free lunch. [laughter] [applause] >> we have a moment of transition so hang tight that is a powerful line of honesty and inspiring conversation. [inaudible conversations] >> momentum is on our side and we don't want to lose said. time to put those into action and as the final speaker will make clear that power is said our hands to make a difference. together we can and we will create an economy that works for everyone. to introduce our final speaker a member of the international union of painters and allied trades local 1274 in connecticut. [applause] >> afternoon. it is said great honor to introduce our next speaker. we'll be first to say i am not a very good speech giver [laughter] >> i have a different trade. i am a glaser and class mechanic in germany. the job i was working on an elementary school in stratford connecticut. it is neithe

per your earlier remarks on the panel, the bank results so far are lousy in the fourth quarter, but we would not extrapolate fourth-quarter results and for morgan stanley, we expect revenues in 2015 to be on average 13% higher than where they were in the fourth quarter. >> seems to me, though, mike, when you want to assess the banks, you have an issue of just pure volatility in the way that you as an investor have to look at whether you should invest in one of these institutions. morgan stanley, you can have wealth management can be great, trading can be bad. can you ever get into a position with these banks as large as they are, with the trend being your friend for any long period of time for all manners of the business working or not? just doesn't seem like you can get everything going your way ever when it comes to the banks now. >> well, there's ongoing issues about too big to manage and too big to analyze and too big to breakup. we've been a prone-point of more aggressive restructuring at the banks. at morgan stanley directionally you have the wealth management business one half t

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we're going to bring in our panel a little bit earlier tonight.enters for chun magazine and singd indicated columnist charles krauthammer. >> what's so important about this is the origin of the four killers, the brothers of the couple. they are born in france, i think we're u now in sort of the third stage of the jihadist war against us. the first of course is 9/11, all of the attackers were are the middle east. and then from the last year or two, we have seen the lone wolf attacks, usually homegrown but fairly unstable and one-on-one and it looks as if fairly disorganized or acting out of inge picture ration but not on instruction or with training here we have perhaps the beginning of the third wave the third stage, and this is the trained local cells, who have learned their trade in the middle east, are connected in some way as we heard the 50 calls among the two groups here. and the obvious connection with al qaeda in yemen, and this i think is going to be, it's as if there's a critical mass of these dissident jihadists in the west, who are now

earlier, i promised you we would get some news from the conference, from the panel that francine lacqua has delivered. we are counting down to the ecb president's announcement from mario draghi. we are expecting a 1.1 trillion euro debt buying plan. the hedge fund billionaire ray dalio weighed in on what europe needs. >> forceful qe and forceful structural reforms would be what is required. >> stay with us on this big day in davos. we will bring you plenty of interviews as we build up to this big event. talking about some other topics that matter to people who know live from davos in 2015. francine will be back later in the program. she will bring up the highlights from her panel. she's been talking to christine lagarde, former treasury secretary larry summers, gary cohn from goldman sachs. we will also be speaking to a chinese ceo on the property market. as oil prices come down, what does that mean for the european auto sector? in a few minutes time, we are going to be talking about what is next for air asia. the ceo of that business will be with us very shortly. stay tuned for that af

we're told this was found earlier today and looks like a window panel.ohns is with me from washington. also, peter goelz, once again, great to have you both with us. you are the crash expert here. i want to get your take on the piece of debris that was found. joe, let's actually go to you first because you've been involved in looking at the search. we saw this u.s. navy ship on site and working. >> we knew the "uss sampson" had been deployed and recovered two bodies on thursday. also, the "uss ft. worth" set sail. not clear of what its function will be. a 16-month deployment starting at the end of december, the "ft. worth" is one of the newest ships and the side scan sonar takes a view of the ocean floor. the u.s. has said it would send aircraft to assist, including a p-8 poseidon aircraft. we don't know what role that plane is going to play. in essence, it could be a controller of a fleet of drones as they look at the specific area of the ocean. it's a war fighter. but in this mission at least, it's clear that the underwater detection capabilities will

i know you had a law enforcement panel earlier and i'm not sure how that went because i got here recently. our police unit in our line officers have to he a vital role in sacramento's effort to build trust and legitimacy. i am especially proud today that dustin smith is joining me for this meeting. he is president of the sacramento police officers association and i would like him to stand up. give him a round of applause. they never get the applause they deserve. [applause] i believe second mento has one of the strongest police departments in this country. the members of our union are on the front lines of our public safety challenges day in and day out. we must have their support and a must-have hours. we have learned that sacramento we cannot make real progress unless the police and community are truly working in lockstep. this is why we are so proud honor to be here today -- we stand at the crossroads of our community. we are the leaders best positioned to bridge the gap in trust and understanding among our residents all of whom want the best for our cities. the city of sacramento and

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. >> again with the window panel you spoke of earlier fairly significant chunk of the plane. >> well it is yet to be seen how significant it is. it may show a location and just be a further confirmation of where these particular passengers were. but a lot of debris stoorts float up wasn't these choppy seas it's go to be awful out there. >> les abend and bill savage thank you. indonesia has the largest muslim population in the world but there's a small number of christians there and one church in particular lost 46 members open flight 8501. we'll take you inside to hear from friends, family. plus given the clues so far more experts are raising the possibility of a water landing or a water touching. we'll break it down next. (vo) nourished. rescued. protected. given new hope. during the subaru "share the love" event, subaru owners feel it, too. because when you take home a new subaru we donate 250 dollars to helping those in need. we'll have given 50 million dollars over seven years. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. >>> as families mourn their loved ones who boarded flight 8501

i know earlier you spoke to -- or spoke and answered a question from the panel that the improvements to labor rights or environmental protections or ip standards, but the question i have got to get to is a question of jobs. just when you look at the context of china, here is just some data between 2001 when china joined the wto in 2013 just roughly 12 years, the trade deficit with china increased by $240 billion or $20 billion a year. when that plays out for pennsylvania we rank fifth in total net job loss or net jobs displaced, i should say, by trade with china. so how do you answer the question that these agreements and the path that you're on is good for workers in pennsylvania? well, thank you senator. you know pennsylvania's goods exports are now $41 billion. they've grown by 150% over the last ten years. more than 200,000 pennsylvanias are employed by export related businesses 15600 firms export from pennsylvania. almost 90% of them are small and medium sized businesses. the question is with these trade agreements, we can create more opportunities for these kinds of businesses.

panel today. you did an interview with him earlier this week.to play an exchange with you you had with him on same-sex marriage. >> in idea the judge makes a ruling on friday afternoon and saturday morning same-sex marriage licenses are given out, that's nonsense. >> would you counter civil disobedience to clerks? >> the point is states would be in a position that their legislation would create legislation. if they don't then there is not same-sex marriage in that state. >> i want to clarify. are you advocating essentially nullification by the states if the supreme court legalizes same-sex marriage? >> no. i'm advocating an adherence to the constitution. i'm saying there is a process to change the law. it doesn't just involve one unilateral branch of government. gosh, chuck when i was governor i wish unilaterally i could have done things as governor governor. it would have been much easier sledding for me if i could have just acted. i'm sure the courts would like to act by themselves. i guarantee the legislature would like to act by themselves.

panel here though. look michael, we talked about spygate earlier. this isabelle belichick, this is tom brady.t about shifting the rules and getting the most out of the rules how people are going to look at them even if no further evidence comes in on this and we never know for sure? >> it all goes back to spygate. think about what we're talking about here. robert kraft said in the statement that he released to the media. the league sent him a letter on monday and said we're going to launch an investigation into the air pressure of the football. the game was played on sunday night there. were people still on the field technically on monday morning. so there was no conversation about what happened with the football. it was an assumption of guilt because it is the patriots spygate happened in september of 2007. and i believe that this is still the residue of spygate. and i also have to say this. a lot of people talk about the patriots and say there's a culture of cheating there. they've done so many things. there are so many incidents. the big incident was spygate. there was no other cheating in

panel is entitled policy responses. it means that we are to enlighten the audience as to how to solve all of the problems that have been discussed earlier today. and for those of you who know the players you will expect unanimity among the panel. i will say paul began the day by pointing out that i don't understand boxes. i should correct him. i don't understand formulas either. but words, actually, you can probably get some benefit from. that's what we're going to engage in up here. i'm tempted to introduce the group by describing the red corner and blue corner but i won't do that. i'll just introduce them from my left, in the order they are going to speak. most of these people are well known to you and i won't say much about them. michael defrow runs the center for business taxation and teaches economics at the cyed business school at oxford so you should not brief what his resume says in the book. it's at least ten years out-of-date. shaven s stephen shay teaches at harvard law school. he was deputy assistant secretary international at the treasury department and practiced law in boston for many years. jim heins is a university of mi

panel. i know ben was here earlier and we did a lot of work in the house on these issues and we introduce the church plant recently as sooner will what introduced another bill on the issue of nondiscrimination testing issue. something would've told to treasury about and it will be another good clarification program that will help. i'm excited about what would've been able to do. i've statistics. charts a 401(k) and ira's, some are critical of the programs they hear is the reality even when there are tough economic times would've had. would've gone from $4 trillion to $5 trillion inir -- in ira's to over $10 trillion and does not that. -- and that is not bad. we have to keep it up. encouraging every small business to offer something so every employer has the opportunity and keeping it simple. we have a simple plan they came out of work in the house for small businesses actually called simple. there is more work to be done in terms of taking us on competition and cost of liabilities. i would like your views on how we can make it better. hot one moment -- auto enrollment, when i talk to companie

our panel is back to look at the analysis. >> as we talked about earlier, there has been progress on government spending shrinking the share of gdp. it's only because of policies that the president was opposed to. the shut down the debt limit fights. the sequestration. >> the line-by-line has never happened. the president promised he'd get rid of stupid rules he says things like this. president obama: ordered federal agencies to eliminate rules that don't make sense. >> he ordered 106 federal regulations and tallying them up for the second term. john: we have a graph that shows the number it's increased, it always goes up. >> always goes up. in 2009, the president said we need to get rid of regulations that force health care costs to go up. i got obamacare i went paying $96 a month to paying $306 for premium. how is that helping costs go down. john: president bush hired 90 new regulator, promised to close guantanamo bay. >> he sure did. he promises it every year in the state of the union. this is the year. and every year here gets to president for a whole year, and he still doesn't m

earlier this week we heard testimony from senior administration officials and a panel of experts on the need for iran sanctions. i will note that this testimony is an addition to the at least 11 other times administration officials have testified before senate committees on iran since 2013. yesterday members also were dissipated in a classified briefing on iran sanctions which covered the same topics of numerous classified briefings for members of congress and staff. moreover this topic has been discussed and analyzed with the administration multiple settings by most of us. both the administration and its critics agree that it was escalating pressures of economic and financial sanctions many of which originated in this committee that brought iran to the negotiating table and 2013. in recent months the sting of these pressures seems to be lessening in part because some of the sanctions have been the ease. kohl. .. i understand that we have a number of amendments today and will 1st turn to senator brown. any other member may either submit the statement for the record will be allowed to ma

this panel, a very distinguished panel to come together and address some very important issues facing this country. i want to at the outset extend my apology that earlier in the hearing the senator from rhode island characterized the testimony that we have heard from witnesses on this panel as, "conspiracy theories and soundbites for fox news." i do not think that is an accurate characterization of the learned testimony that this panel of witnesses has given to this panel, and i apologize that you are subjected to having your character impugned in that

this panel, a very distinguished panel to come together and address some very important issues facing this country. i want to at the outset extend my apology that earlier in the hearing the senator from rhode island characterize the testimony that we have heard from witnesses on this panel as quote, conspiracy theories, and soundbites for fox news. i do not think that is an accurate characterization of the learned testimony that this panel of witnesses has given to this panel, and i apologize that you are subjected to having your character impudent -- impuned in that manner by a united states senator. this panel has focused on some very important issues that need to be highlighted. i would note the constituent of mine and a friend, i have long thought highly of your commitment to public engagement, your volunteer efforts to make a difference in our political discourse, and i wanted to ask you as a citizen who engaged in the political process, how did it make you feel to be covered -- targeted by the government for persecution? >> it takes your breath away when you don't know quite where true north is, and it begs the bigger question, what mrs. kutcher

as you say, they have found a window panel that has been brought to the surface and there have been reports earlier this week that they may have located -- there was a sonar image of a much bigger object but that hasn't been confirmed since. that much bigger object obviously is the fuselage and searchers think that the fuselage brianna, mainly in tact and it still con takened many of the bodies. so a very frustrating all around but so much so for the families who wait here where i am at the crisis center in surabaya for any sort of news about the fate of their loved ones. >> and so many of them you told us are resigned, really to the fate of their loved ones and so the next step for many of them is burying their loved ones. now with 30 bodies having been found, only 4 identified how does this process go of identifying these bodies? >> reporter: well painfully or pain painstakingly slowly. they are very very cautious and careful about identifying correctly the remains of these bodies. they have been in the sea now for several days. a visual identification is becoming obviously more difficult so more

if you didn't buy the dips earlier in the week is it too late? our panel next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the evolution of luxury continues. the next generation 2015 escalade. stephanie, starting with you, i know today was a little better. it's a little early to throw in the towels. >> the first week is always a little crazy. pms are repositioning their portfolios. so you can't read too much into it. we have very encouraging data on auto sales. we get bed, bath & beyond. we get the container store after the close tomorrow. keep an eye out on more retail and hear more about the consumer. they're in pretty good shape. >> bank earnings next week are going to be very telling for the market. i think everybody is expecting that margins were compressed yet again. now that's been well telegraphed. what did trading activity look like and how is some of the volatility actually translating into business, or is it? >> right. >> i know we're not going to get that for a few more days but i know a lot of analysts were setting up for it. >> the jp call for goldman to break it up to

panel is back to dissect line by line. >> every single year obama has proposed more spending and congress implemented progress we talked about earlier there has been progress on the government spending but only because the policies the president was supposed to with the sequestration. c.s. we made progress. john: and line by line has ever happened. he also said he would get rid of stupid rules. >> i have ordered every federal agent to eliminate rules that don't make sense. [laughter] >> the he added 106 new federal regulations but the president but it always'' -- goes up also to say get rid of regulations the allow costabile by wed from $96 a month reprieve but the 396 so how does that help health care costs go down? to make this is not democratic because is bush hired the thousand regulators he promised to close guantanamo bay. >> but this is the year every year he gets to be president for a whole year is he still pleasant manage? john: he said 250 now there is 122 ; also end the war's end drawdown troops said this is the thing where you can only say i did a little bit better with the most powerful man in the free world is probably