john nielsen joins me by phone. talk to me about the condition of the roads there in massachusetts and what you folks are telling drivers. >> well really in the metropolitan eastern side of the state, there's still a lot of snow coming and we expect more. as we look to the western side of the state, the travel ban has been lifted in several counties and things seem to be a little bit better there. the key message is that you should stay off the roads until the all clear is given. >> here's another part of the story i would think. once the snow does finally stop the winds die down. you've got a lot of snow on the roads there and temperatures expected to remain below freezing for a while. all of this -- or much of this turns to ice correct? >> if we get that temperature up to 33 or 34 degrees and little bit of it melts and go back below freezing that's when the roads really get treacherous. as long as we stay below freezing, nothing is going to thaw and we should be all right. watch yourself for any runoff on the back

managing director of automotive engineering, john nielsen is here. so good to have you here.to tell you, you're here on unusual day because not only do we have the incredible weather, the governor said roads in new york city state that roads will be closed after 11:00 p.m. and a $300 fine for people caught driving. i don't think i ever heard of anything like this. is this unusual? >> i think it is unusual. the governor reflects what everybody says, it is better off to stay at home. seems like really good advice. gerri: talk about where the roads will b the worst. you're an expert in this. you're an expert engineer. tell us where not to go as we hit the curfew at 11:00 p.m. do we stay off big highways small ones what should we do. >> that's a great question. the direction is to stay off roads period. if we think of 95 moving up from jersey through new york that will be a problem. as the storm moves northeast it travels along the eastern states eastern new england states but highways are going to be closedded. but they will be first one to be cleared off. side roads and seconda