they made history electing the first woman, katherine jefford shory, she will not be running again. there's a lot of speculation after the first woman they might try to have the first minority or ethnic presiding bishop. so it's more of a symbolic gesture i think than anything of real substance in terms of the race or gender of the presiding bishop but it does say something about the church of the establishment and who they put in the top position. so worth watching. >> i'm sort of -- it feels like we may be seeing a new civil rights movement. and we sort of forget how central the churches were in the original civil rights movement. because of what happened on staten island and in ferguson. because of the efforts to change the sentencing laws so that african-american men in particular don't get sent to prison for endless periods of time. i think there's a real bubbling up. obviously it's happening within african-american churches but you're seeing some of this happen in white and latino churches. and i think this may be a year where we see something -- i don't think it will be a sur