former lapd homicide detective mark furhman joins me now.ck with us tonight. mark, your thoughts on what you've seen tonight. >> well, i'm not deterred from my opinion that deborah bradley is most definitely the suspect whether intentional or otherwise. i think she was responsible for the disappearance and most probably the death of lisa irwin. i don't think jeremy is i don't think jeremy is involved at at all. i think he is i think he is an unwitting pawn of deborah bradley that is going along with her innocence routine. and really the scam and really the scam that's going on here. >> why? why? because you because you know, you heard phil, he has no horse in this race. he says she he says she did not indicate deception. >> well, when -- with all due respect to somebody that worked for the cia and dealt with terrorists, that's fine. but you observe them for hours days, weeks months sometimes years. you understand how they are on and off camera, on and off interrogation. and this interrogation wasn't an interrogation. it was barely an intervi

. >> defense lawyers are eager to point out detective mark furhman's role in discovering the evidence>> and now mark fuhrman came up to you and told you he made some discoveries, correct? >> yes. >> so we're clear, it was mark furhman who allegedly found this glove out there near kato kaelin's room, correct? outside? >> yes. >> and it was mark fuhrman who allegedly found the spot on the outside of the bronco, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> mark fuhrman would play a starring role in this unfolding drama, as would this man. >> i heard a thumping noise. >> how many thumps did you hear? >> three. >> simpson's shaggy house guest, kato kaelin. did you ever expect what was going to happen when you got up there and took the stand? >> no, not at all. that was my first time in a courtroom in my entire life. and i think i was 35 at the time. >> kaelin's four days on the stand thrust him into the national spotlight. >> i even come up with a thing saying never has a man done so little to be recognized by so many. >> today he testified, he said that o.j.'s maid never really liked him. sure.

here with reaction former nypd detective bo dietel and former lapd detective mark furhman, brought upue that is the antithesis of our society freedom, are we making a mistake by not profiling and letting them in? >> my new thing is wake up america. if this is not a wakeup call what happened in paris, and for people to think that it's not coming here, then they're in disney world. the fact of the matter is what we've done here with this dianene feinstein taking apart our intelligence organizations, going after the nsa doing all these things in new york city here which is the target, will always be the target, we will get whacked here. all of a sudden they took away all the police intelligence, we can't go into muslim neighborhoods where they're recruiting these people. come on, give me a break. what are we going to do? we going to wait for the towers to come down? maybe the new building we built come down? we have to start our intelligence going. all these liberals, if they really don't like it, maybe they should move to paris with those liberals. look at our defense budget. to the low