so here is this poor guy where the government is going after him with the pinkertons, but with the pinkertons bomb his house, they kill his a little rather and blow off his stepmom's arm, which really plays well into the stories, and when he is shot in the back by robert ford, that dirty little coward that shot him in the back, there was a little song written by him i bruce springsteen some years ago so he shoots him in the back, so when that happens it becomes at this great american symbol of an individual guy who is literally hunted down and killed by his government. because robert ford had a deal with the government of missouri at the time or he could just get rid of jesse james, he could get a pardon, and the that is what happened. that is why we care about jesse james. isn't that cool? so what happens? i just killed jesse james in 1882 but that is not the only image that is going on at the time. you have jesse james who takes the cowboy off in a criminal direction, you also have the rise of buffalo bill cody, who is really becomes a public figure in late 19860's and late 1870's. he begin

ended up speaking and we talked about a word serieser album that was out for about a year called pinkerton, the album meant a lot to me and him and instantly -- >> the glue of your relationship is word word weezer. we can stop right now. >> i think it's still that kind of a relationship and i think that's why it's fun to work together, because now we've worked together for so long and we share so much with each other, i find that it makes going to set more exciting and also harder because you -- you know, i get nervous when i go to work for the first time, i'm nervous right now. and i think a lot of it has to do with saying the wrong thing, or making a miss take, but the thing about with wes is that now i've known him for so long. >> right. >> and he's seen me be bad, and make miss takes and stuff, that i feel like we can get to the work more quickly. there's less chit chat. i remember i was in the moonrise kingdom and i had been filming bored to death all night long. we had a night shoot and i was -- they were shooting moonrise kingdom in rhode island, and a car drove me from rhode island

and a police state that has a lot of spies run by people like lafayette and baker and allen pinkerton. as has prisons including a prison across the street directly from the capital called the old capitol person which obviously used to be the site of the capital itself after the capital was birthed by the british in 1813. the old brick capitol, the old capital prison has a number of spies and provocateurs housed in it. often because of spies, someone informing on someone else and is well what do you find at the time is a huge military traffic coming in so churches are being ferried into the town livestock as well. washington monument which was incomplete at that time becomes grounds for military livestock military cattle and the slaughterhouses nearby. the mall in the center of town becomes home to a lot of rampaging cows and pigs and other animals designed for military use. so you have this setting where the city is breaking down fundamentally and hopefully to be rebuilt after the war. when you come to washington city in the 1860s is very different than when you come in 1820s. it is a