speaker: andrew shan, i believe. speaker: when did you become aware of what was withheld? speaker: um, at the time that we sent the response to the disclosure request. speaker: when was that, approximately? speaker: i believe we sought an extension, so probably a couple of weeks. speaker: a couple of weeks. what does that mean? speaker: after the request was made within 14 days. speaker: by june 5, 2013 you didn't know what was withheld or hasn't read them? i'm sorry, i'm confused on the timeline. speaker: no, i didn't read the documents. i accepted the recommendation of the staff and the city attorney. speaker: but at some point you read the documents and reviewed them, right? speaker: much later. speaker: when was that? speaker: after -- i think when the original lawsuit was filed. speaker: okay. i don't have any further questions. mr. grossman. thank you, mr. sancrow. speaker: i know the commissions started the hear, but i thought perhaps you would address the point i made about your conflict, which is so obvious and so apparent that the only fact that i come second, it