. >> host: let's hear from pat from south carolina longs south carolina. hey, pat. pat, you still there? >> caller: yes, good morning. >> host: we gotcha now, go ahead. >> caller: i have a question. if the congress -- if the house passes a bill and the senate passes a bill and then it goes to the president and he vetoes it is he not the one shutting the government down, not congress? thank you. >> guest: you know it's a fair question and that's something the republicans are going to argue. they're saying that this is on the democrats. they actually have proactively tried to fund the government, and that's what some folks believe, and the republican side, that they will not incur a political backlash not as steep as the 2013 funding fight that led to the government-wide shutdown because they believe they're trying to proactively push legislation and democrats are blocking it. it's not even going to get to the president's desk because democrats in the senate are filibustering this, preventing debate from even happening, and that's one of the reasons why that the repub