david gergen, let me ask you. how much of a risk are they taking by pushing this as much as they are, by not voting for the three week funding measure? >> very little. this is a real embarrassment, john. the issue here is frankly not security because 85% of the dhs employees are expected to go back to work. america will still be as safe tomorrow as it was today if dhs temporarily shuts down but what it has been is a major test of whether republicans once they take the house and the senate can govern and the democrats shouldn't be expected to come to the rescue of republicans when this is a big test. they'll work this out. but so far, this has been the best day hillary clinton has had in six months. it really goes -- it is. because it goes to the question this is a ramp-up period to the 2016 election. her argument or the argument of democrats is that if you turn the government over to the republicans, they can't govern. this is now exhibit one in that argument. and republicans need to get their act together and the

that's a mistake. >> thank you david gergen and john king. just called jim jim acosta who joins us now. >> rudy giuliani is not backing down one bit. he said to me during this brief phone conversation quote, i don't regret making the statement. i believe it. i don't know if he loves america. and then went on to say during this conversation i don't feel the same enthusiasm as him for america. one other thing i should point out, anderson during this phone call the former mayor said his office has received some death threats, said secretary has gotten death threats over the phone. but the former mayor did not say whether he alerted police to threatening phone calls and cnn has no way of confirms that. giuliani said in the conversation that the majority of the phone calls received at his office have been supportive and even heard from louisiana governor bobby jingal to back him on his comments. >> thank you, jim acosta talking to mayor giuliani a short time ago. >>> growing skepticism plan to take back the city of mosul will work whether ready fo

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obama quote, unquote, doctrine cnn global affairs analyst bobby ghosh, general mark hertling and david gergencome to all of you. bobby, i want to start with you. does president obama have a doctrine? >> it's hard to find one in all of his actions. it would seem that he's a naturally cautious person when it comes to international affairs. given america's recent history, i suppose that caution is understandable. he's also reflecting a larger national sort of reluctance to get involved in far away conflicts, but that doesn't quite amount to a doctrine. that's much more of a wait and see what happens next view of things. >> wait and see what happens next. so david, the president is going to go to congress. he's going ask for a new power. then we'll decide. it's understandable. >> what he would do that effort is the way the world expected. more importantly, the coalition with countries that are on the ground. many of our friends in the persian gulf area we do have friends there who have stood with us on numerous occasions are asking us to stand with them. i think they're scratching their heads say

. >>> want to bring in our senior political analyst and former presidential adviser david gergen. good to see you. we've seen this kind of rhetoric building more and more throughout the years but even in will's piece we saw some republicans who were distancing themselves from giuliani's remarks almost immediately there. one of the things that the professor brought up in that piece, he said that he thought it was about giuliani trying to get attention. do you really think that is the political cal clue queue lus here he just wants to be relevant and try to get attention and risk potentially the legacy he had for being someone of the people america's mayor? >> i don't think he was looking for attention. he was in an event he thought was off the record at a private restaurant in new york and didn't know that anybody was there from the press. he's a defiant man, likes to stand up and be tough. he's a new yorker. i'm a fan of his time as mayor, he was a very good mayor, especially after 9/11. i think on this particular issue he's wrong, it's wrong to question a president of the united

david gergen writes in "the new york times" in his review would barack obama have been elected president without david axelrod? that question is less farfetched than it may seem. i'm pleased to have david axelrod back at this tablement welcome. >> i'm so glad to be here charlie. >> rose: we'll come to that question a bit later. he would have done quite well without you and you would have done quite well without him. but the two probably was greater than the sum. >> and the truth is i'm not sure either of us would have gone forward in politics but for the fact that we came together at a time when each of us was at kind of an exi tension-- existential moment in our career. hi grown dismayed about the cynical nature of the business that i was in of campaigns. and he had lost a race for congress and was making a decision about one more campaign. and if he had lost it he told michelles this's it. i will be out of politics an i will pursue other things. so this was around his senate race in to 04. we started working together today that in 2002. and so-- . >> rose: a senator in a field of six.