secretary kissinger. >> mr. chairman. thank you for this invitation to appear together with my friend of 50 years to whom i owe so much and madeleine albright, with whom i have shared common concerns for many decades. and who put me in a place when she was the secretary of state and i introduced her at a dinner in new york and i said welcome to the fraternity. and she said the first thing you have to learn is that it's no longer a fraternity. and now it is also a sorority. [laughter] mr. chairman, i agree with the policy recommendations that my colleagues have put forward and to try to put forward the conceptual statement of the overall situation and i will be happy to go into specific policy issues. united states finds itself in occur. circle situation. by any standard of capacity, we are in a favorable position to achieve our traditional objectives and to shape international relations. as we look around the world, we encounter up evil, conflict, and chaos. >> the it non-, 1969-1973, henry kissinger -- in cambodia, laos

evan thomas with his co-author with that book. 1992 henry kissinger, "kissinger," "benjamin frankllin," "einstein" in 2007 "steve jobs" 2011 and "the innovators" came out last year. walter isaacson is also the ceo of the aspen institute former editor of "time," former head of cnn and former chairman of the broadcasting board of governors. walter isaacson will be with us for the next three hours. put the numbers on screen if you would like to dial in and participate in the conversation here are the numbers, 202-9748-8200, in the east and central time zones, age 201 for those in the mountain and pacific time zones. if you can't get through on the phone lines and want to participate try social media,@booktv is our twitter handle, you can follow the conversation on facebook facebook.com/booktv. at the top of the page some video of walter isaacson that we shared earlier this weekend you can make a comment underneath that video in the comment section and finally send an e-mail, booktv@c-span.org and begin taking your calls and social media comments in a minute. a couple more of your books b

and what was i doing when i was doing kissinger?he said you were writing about your dark side, too, and i said oh, watch out. so when i did steve jobs, she said i can't quite figure out what you're doing when you did steve jobs. i said i was writing bat young person who could be a little bit bratty a little bit pushing love beauty and technology but was a kind of hard to deal with, and then i stared at her and she said -- i said no, no. but i love ben franklin. i think that ben franklin is the one -- i get to talk to some members of congress later this week, at the library of congress they have a gathering that david reubenstein helped to put together, and who do you want to talk about? talk about ben franklin ben franklin is the person who was able to do the practicality and holding true to values that we like the most in this country and so i can't say i'll ever be a benjamin franklin but if i wake up eave morning and say what should i aspire to be issue read ben franklin's autobiography. >> host: matthew foley from indianapolis e

third, kissinger and rogers really don't want me. every plan has now failed and he blames the democrats so i am going back to harvard. and he does. and they stayed friendly and they comment back and forth into years later nixon calls him again and says will you be ambassador to india? his wife was an archaeologist and she liked that also and used it to discover some major develops had she not been the ambassador's wife. so they go off to india and the book actually ends with the two of them he cents a cable from india that says says, to a supplemental social security past. there will be aid for disabled people for those without sight. we did not win it all but we won this it will be a happier new year for all of us. [applause] >> he has agreed to answer your questions but first daniel patrick moynihan became a senator from new york is there any lessons he took to the senate from president nixon? >> that is the good question. i don't know how to answer it. moynihan as a senator was as unique as an adviser to the president every summer

this is kissinger's book. specifically at one point a letter i went to the nixon library and got it, to letter from the chinese to president nixon. please come to china. one-page letter said in a archives and the original is still there. kissinger said returned is now because it was too risky. so the problem with understanding china's secret strategy is until these documents are declassified on both sides we don't know how the secret strategy began and how it's been working out. i got the security review authority to declassify a number of these and the american presidential decisions to mammals and part of the chinese story but i hope others will follow me and try to trace the secret strategy. it is denied by the chinese at first but if you say what about the book on the memo of the four generals? what about the americans not taking the initiative to open china but china opened up america than chinese officials or scholars will say yes, how did you know that? we are making progress unraveling the church histo

kissinger likes him. they vote three to three.they had to call washington because fusion pain was here. this is media rumors only. he's very sensitive information inside china how they choose their next leader. allegedly vice president she called back. which then leads to a gentleman who is the head of the security services in china, also understanding and he gets arrested is going to jail for life. and some military officers either at the stadium or they were doing other things. those military officers arrested and are going to jail for life. so we get a treat here into hawks versus doves in china. this case it appears the hawks may have lost. as soon as president excise takes office, he takes the other six members in the top seven guys in those groups. he takes them to a temple called the national meeting of the china. susan and i went there. everybody should go. if you want to understand 100 year marathon, is laid out in this museum. by design, bigger than louisville or british museum. in it the 100 year marathon is laid out. t

for examplple, no and in kissinger -- nixon and kissinger opening chchina is a story all americans agree on. i show that both documents o our side and the chinese side show that it was not only a chinese initiatives, iwas by four chinese generals in a series of memomos to chairman mao -- >> hard-line generals. >> hard-line generals who ha the idea to bring richard nixon to china. kissinger shows how he and richard nixon refused the first chinese invitations. one came in writing. i found this in the nixon library in china. kissinger explplains in his book that he thought it wasoo risky to accept the invitation. the chinese story is que different. chinese initiative and strategy at work, and the american side being hesitant to accept. ultimately it does happen. i can use that as one example of chinese strategic thinking that i really admire. i am not criticizing them as being demonic or malevolent. they are quite smart. they may well be outsmarting us for a long time to come. >> you make the case that it is a bit of a tom sawyer strategy. they just don't want to papaint the fence. how does

we are waiting on henry kissinger. he's always late.on't you come into my office and have a cup of coffee while you are waiting. >> said he comes to my office. so we'll talk about politics and in 1968 i had represented as a rockefeller. i am -- together than the audience and kissinger i don't think that heber talked to a 16-year-old before in his life. i was sure that i could win that he the data presented the issue tickets would like would like which is the volunteer army. but in any way, we have the debate and then a year later we find ourselves both housed. if it comes out at the same time in the morning i would say we have some money for our domestic problems. one morning at this point henry kissinger leans over and he says steve, you are right this is the right man for this moment in history. that was life in the west basement. [laughter] >> i was always in the situation room once and it was drug use. i remember clearly because we sat around the table and henry got up at some point and he said i have to go get the presidents speech

now as he says to kissinger, this changes the picture. we thought all he had was on the democrats on this shows who could have had it. what about hai fong which is mentioned specifically? it had not yet happened. these were plans that happened been late as early as 1969 but had not yet been carried out. they were not carried out until 1972, a year later. it would show them when they were carried out, 1972, they were presented as an ad hoc response to the north yet and amaze offensive what was taking place to the north vietnamese offensive which was taking place for it to come out that late as early as 1969 would put in question his whole strategy and also what his aims were. in other words, things that implied how long this will go on. how big can this get? in fact, let me go ahead 1972. i had been on trial now, under indictment for one year at that point. i called up with the mioning of hai fong and called up mort hal perin and i said what he revealed to me in 1969 has been played out. what's next question mark he said no,. he has not bo

and yes it is in the book of kissinger. specifically at one point a letter that i didn't really believe existed, please come to china. sitting there in the archives the original still there in the library, kissinger says we turned this down because it was too risky. so the problem with understanding china's secret strategy is until these documents are declassified on both sides, we do not really know how the secret strategy began and how it has been working out. and so the letters to and from kissinger and nixon and also part of the others i became interested in doing this. i hope others will follow me entries this secret strategy. it is denied by the chinese at first but then if you say what about the book by the general on the memo of the four generals what about the americans not taking the initiative to open china but china opening up america, then chinese officials and callers will say well yes how did you know that. and so we are making progress unraveling the true history of this secret strategy on the chinese side.

: so, walter isaacson what is theat link between avril hourlyman, ben franklin, steve jobs henry kissinger and adar can lovelace?: th >> guest: yeah, i think they're all create cannive minds, ander. that's what's intretted me throughout my career. to me, it's people who can come wound different disciplines like the arts and the sciences the way ben franklin did, the way ada lovelace did and make creative leaps of thet imagination. you know, we talk about innovation so often, it's almost drained of its meaning. and i've always like t to write about real people who are in a situation whether it with avril herriman after world war ii and you have to create a whole new world order of things like nato and the world bank and therl marshall plan or a steve jobs who says okay, we're now in a digital revolution, we have to make it personal. ..rds, were able to think different, think out of the box. i want to try to explore the creative mind and how it works. >> host: one of them themes -- themes in your book seems to be a connect to spirituality. >> guest: everybody believed they were part of somet

kissinger says return this now because it was too risky. so the problem with understanding the chinese secret strategy is until the documents are declassified on both sides, we don't really know how to secret strategy began and how it's working out and i got a security review authorities to declassify a number of these arguments and the american presidential decisions to and from and also part of the chinese story that's beginning to come out. but i hope others will follow me in trying to trace the secret strategy. it's denied by the chinese at first. then if you say what about the buck on the memo of the four generals, what about the americans not taking the initiative to open china but china opened up america than the chinese officials and scholars will say yes, how did you know that? so making progress in unraveling the true history of this secret strategy on the chinese side so basically with a clear plan they think it was a plan is a plan that wasn't necessarily that clear. then talk like that strategies in the folklore into something

arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. >> can somebody find out where the capitol police is? >> arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. >> in the name of the people of chili. in the name of the people of vietnam. in the name of the people of chili. in the name of the people of vietnam. in the name of the people of east timor. in the name of the people of cambodia. in the name of the people of laos. >> i would like to say to my colleagues and to our distinguished visitors this morning that i have been a member of this committee for many years. i have never seen anything as disgraceful and outrageous and despicable as the last demonstration that just took place that you know, you're going to have to shut out or i will have you arrested. if we can't get a capitol hill police in here immediately -- get out of here, you low life scum. [applause]

when they say -- they wanted kissinger at first but they wanted nixon as well.they kept saying that president nixon should come in doctor kissinger said obviously they mean an envoy in so that led to the death of roughly 10 chinese generals. and mao winks and says to nixon you know it is in the declassified documents and he said to nixon, some people didn't want you to come. don't worry about it. and he meant that he killed his top 10 generals to oppose this and to this day the mystery of this plane crash headed for the soviet union, the chinese narrative is that they are triggered they try to oppose nixon coming so they had a plane that ran out of gas and they all died. and others are put on trial later on. and so they have a whole different vision his wife and the others in the gang of four they have a different vision of how to do the hundred year marathon. they commit suicide in jail or spend life in prison so this is a life or death struggle how to do the 100 year marathon but nobody can say. if you want to stay in the party or the government, you can't say

these people were physically threatening henry kissinger. i'm used to people popping up at these hearings and yelling and they're escorted out. that's at least some version of free speech. these people rushed up. they were right next to henry kissinger waiving handcuffs at him. he's a 91-year-old man with a broken shoulder who was willing to come down and testify before congress to give us the benefit of his many years of wisdom. of course i was outraged and i am still rouge raged. it's one thing to stand up and protest, it's something else to physically threaten an individual particularly an individual who has served so much to his country, whether you agree or not. i happen to believe he's one of the great states men of my lifetime or maybe of the whole 20th century. >> you called them scum. that name-calling do you think -- >> i think they're terrible people okay? i think they're terrible people that would do that to a 91-year-old man with a broken shoulder that -- to physically threaten him. that is -- that is beyond any normal behavior

to him on my way to china to meet with president xi, and they said he is not as sort of the henry kissinger of asia for real. but he's a very wise man. and i said to him, i said what are the chinese doing now? and he thought, because we're talking about how rapidly the net i've come to know relatively well resident she consolidated power. and he said to me speaks perfect english. he said they are in america looking for the buried blackbox. it looks at me to secure looking at me like what is he talking about? he said they're looking for that secret that allows america to constantly be able to remake itself, unlike any other country in the world. and i said i can present to chile what's in that blackbox mr. president. i am old enough now. i said, one is that there is come in america there is an overwhelming skepticism for orthodoxy. from the time a child, whether they are naturalized or they are nativeborn day think about it a child never gets criticized and education system for challenging orthodoxy, for challenging the status quo. i would argue it's unlike any other large country in the wor

the protesters were calling for henry kissinger's arrest. now, mccain has tweeted this picture.has presented dr. kissinger a set of boxing gloves for his next hearing. >>> jeb bush is getting attention for a new hire. ethan sayer. the founder of hipster.com. some offensive tweets started disappearing after the announcement. many of the tweets reportedly disparage women and gay men. he tweeted, i deleted some old jokes i made years ago that i no longer find funny or appropriate, learning and maturing. >>> from politico, congressmen's spending brings shock and awe. aaron schock has spent $90,000 for air charters. an ethic committee is investigating his spending. >>> elizabeth she tweeted this image, there's never too much snow to barbecue. harry reid the undergo his second eye surgery on sen. he hurt it by having an accident while exercising on new year's day. maryland governor mark o'malley has been in an exercising accident. broke my elbow at the gym. thanks to the staff at union memorial. surgery went well. gwen moore is poking fun at most of them. sorry about your elbow, gover

i know you don't like kissinger and the crew. he is 91 with a bad shoulder.i wouldn't have done it if i were you. i'm glad you are on so we can talk about something substantive. you heard today isis burned jordanian pilot to death. i am sure you heard they massacred and slaughtered people. code pink, what's your group's assessment how would you stop all these murders from isis? >> we think that the u.s. invasion of iraq that john mccain was such a supporter of, actually opened the way to the creation of isis. >> that doesn't really matter now. >> it does matter now, because it shows the history the u.s. military intervention only creates more extremism. we have allies like saudi arabia that are funding the extremists, we have allies like turkey that are letting the extremists cross the border that are sending weapons. in we should get our allies like the turks and saudis to stop the recruits, stop the funding, and stop the weapons. >> okay. so you are saying that the code pink strategy you want to stop isis. you want to stop them? >> because we are peace peop

. >> host: walter isaacson, what is the link between ben franklin, steve jobs, henry kissinger and ada >> guest: they're all creative minds and that interested me throughout my career. a lot of people write about sports heroes or literary figures, but to me it's people who can combine different discipline like the arts and sciences, the way ben franklin did, the way ada lovelace did and albert einstein. we talk about

kissinger. governors don't just take trips.nts about my state and around the country. i'm so worried about the future, not just of our country but our world. we need leadership. >> let's talk specifics. you talk about leadership and you talk about big, bold, fresh ideas. what is your big, bold, fresh idea in syria? >> i think -- i go back to the red line. >> let's not go back. let's go forward. what is your big, bold idea? >> i think aggressively, we need to take the fight to isis and any other radical islamic terrorists around the world. it's not a matter of when they -- not if, i should say, it's when they plan an attack on american soil. we need leadership amongst the united states and our allies. we need people to know we're willing to take appropriate action. >> you don't think 2,000 air strikes is taking it to isis in syria and iraq? >> i think we need to have an aggressive strategy anywhere around the world. i think it's a mistake. >> what does that mean? i don't know what aggressive strategy means. we've done 2,000 air

kissinger, albright, and shultz. now, in light of the new threat should more attention being given to this than we have in the past? i noticed when you used the word -- you ticked off five of the areas that have not been given proper attention, this wasn't one of those areas. do you think it should be? >> senator inhofe, i was as undersecretary member of the nuclear weapons council and followed the issues closely and was very, very concerned throughout my tenure about the state of our aging nuclear force. we haven't built new nuclear weapon since 1988. we haven't tested one since 1991. there are lots of ways we maintain the safety and surety of the stockpile. but as time goes on and particularly not only as the inevitable corrosion and degradation of components goes on, but also the loss of human capital because we are not able to get the best and brightest minds in the field the way we used to be able to do, i think it's a matter of really increasing concern. we are, unfortunately, i think living through a period wh

kissinger has said. it's completely obscured.any kind of rational analysis of this country as to who is to blame for this and how we get out of it. the result is as we talk -- as we talk, and this is not idle rhetoric -- we may be hurtling toward an actual war with russia. >> partly there's an interesting test of international relations theory here, when a country, a leader has fewer resources, faces more constraints, more pressure, does he back down or does he lash out? so far certainly on the upside the argument has been that as oil revenues have increased, putin's ambitions have grown over the last 15 years. right? that's been the general thesis, when russia needed debt forgiveness in 2000, putin was nice. bush said i looked into his eyes and saw his soul. why wouldn't that work? why wouldn't the fact oil revenues declining make him more cautious, make him more accommodating? >> i would say two things. first of all, contrary to a lot of international relations theory i think that the domestic nature of the regime matters and i

but he wrote -- in the book is the letter that he wrote kissinger and ford, ford and kissinger and talked about, you know, if the president asks, you know, i have the responsibility to do. >> and that has defined -- >> and i asked, by the way, i asked him and clinton to run the tsunami relief and they did. and did well, by the way, and ended up in one of the most unique friendships in our history. the guy who beat george bush in '92 would tell you that dad has become like a father figure to him. which speaks volumes for both. bill clinton's great respect for george h.w. bush and george h.w. bush's great humility, that he wouldn't allow an election to intercede in a what is a unique friendship. i think it's remarkable. i really think it's, you know, an amazing story. >> has that friendship -- [applause] has that friendship spilled over to you so that -- >> yeah. >> is there -- >> well he calls me w., and i call him bubba. [laughter] no yeah, we get along fine. we're the only two baby boomer presidents. and, you know, he was born in august of '46 i was born in july of '46. we were both gove

. >> tell me about andrew marshall, a form aide to henry kissinger is still in charge of the program?> he's supposed to retire this year. i don't know if he retired or not. he has run the office of net assessment since the 1970s and helped kissinger deal with arms control issues. there are a number of documents that i found over the years that show that he was exerting a lot of pressure on the cia to push back other estimates -- >> the famous team b. >> mid-1970s, yes. >> fascinating stuff. >> did this office by any way project that vladimir putin would steal and keep bob kraft's super bowl ring? >> the 2008 report does mention that incident. >> it does. >> what does it say? >> that it was evidence of some of his quirky behavior and whether that fits in with the other things they loorked at. >> somebody should have told mr. kraft. he's got another one now. thank you very much. >> my pleasure great to be here. >> we have important breaking news, john boehner has just announced this pope francis will visit capitol hill during his trip to the u.s. and the first pope to address a joint me

years, i have talked to former secretary rice, and i have read many of the writings of secretary kissinger, and many others, and i don't want to point to one source, but my point is this. i think there has been a bipartisan consensus post cold war that a stronger america leads to a safer world. our enemies need to fear us, our friends need to trust us. we need to have the military might to deter any threats to america and to our interests. that consensus seems to be fraying in recent years. you see that i would argue that we have made too deep cuts in the pentagon's budget. you go back to secretary gates' analysis. it was the last time within the department there was a bottom up approach of what the department really needed in terms of equipment, training, and resources. unfortunately this is becoming more partisan as opposed to a bipartisan consensus. i think that a return to that traditional foreign policy of strength, of peace through strength of what we need as a country, it is a truism, but it is a cliche. the best way to avoid war is to prepare for it. we are currently projecting to

kissinger. >> i am concerned about the trajectory of these negotiations.when you look at the full sweep going back through 2003 or 2004 when it began before it was the p5 + 1 we started with a multilateral negotiation to prevent iran from developing that capability. now increasingly we're in a bilateral negotiation between the united states and iran that is aimed at secretary carey has said to limit the breakout time it has to develop a nuclear weapon now one year. that seems to be the enormous retreat. i don't know exactly this state of the negotiations with the press reports iran might be allowed to keep thousands and thousands of centrifuges without taking them down is very concerning to me because i think because there is a time limit in the negotiation that was agreed to it will be time limited with your 20 years or three years or 10 years. and some point it runs out. of the banks are a guide despite in thin they have the threshold and the way negotiations and have proceeded in you both discuss the problem of sequestration with the queue the are you n

kissinger other nations in the region and other nations do. planting to have nuclear weapons. how do you evaluate that? senator. i am a little bit concerned about the trajectory of the negotiations when you look at the full sweep of them going back to 2003 and 2004 when it began as u 3 and a sort of plus one. we started with what was essentially a multilateral negotiation with the objective preventing iran from developing the nuclear capability and we now initial creasingly are in a bilateral negotiation between the united states and iran that is aimed at secretary kerry has said to limit the break out or the sneak out time that iran will do to develop a nuclear weapon to one year that seems to be aven enormous retreat i don't know exactly what the state of the negotiation is. the press reports indicate that can iran may be allowed to keep thousands and thousands of centrifuges without taking them down is very very concerning to me i think that because there is a time limit, that in the negotiation that was agreed to in the joint plan of action. it will be time limited whateve

-- that is beyond any normal behavior that i have ever observed. >> well, senator mccain called kissinger one of the great statesmen of the 20th century which is by many people's standards debatable. we'll be right back. >>> a lot of republicans particularly in the establishment and those who live on the either left coast or those who live up in the bubbles of new york and washington are convinced that if we don't capitulate on the same-sex marriage issue, and if we don't raise the white flag of surrender, and just accept the inevitable, then we're going to be losers. i tell you, tim, it is the absolute opposite of that. and if the republicans want to lose guys like me and a whole bunch of still god-fearing bible believing people, go ahead and on this issue, go ahead and say abortion doesn't matter either because at that point you lose me, i'm gone. >> i'm gone. that is a pretty strong statement by mike huckabee. he vowed to leave the republican party if. establishment leaders do not hold fast on their opposition to gay marriage. he was asked how he could. >> you do right about it being o

joining me is republican congressman adam kissinger. he served in iraq and afghanistan. congressman, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> are you aware of any demands by isis to release this woman in exchange for kayla mueller? if you were were u.s. officials considering it? >> i don't know. i haven't heard the details of that. congressman gosar claimed that. that would make sense. but we don't negotiate with terrorists. all you're doing is encouraging future abductions of americans. the as traj as tragic as this situation with kayla is we don't negotiate with terror. this is why. they begin to think they can get all end fz us. >> let's talk about what's next in the region. president obama is expected to give his request for war authorization in this fight against isis whaxt have you heard about that document? is it something that you could support? >> it's something i want to support. i personally don't think the president as commander in chief needs congressional authority. i think he has it under existing use of force. but i think it makes the country look gre

we are looking at an iran that's coming so close to a nuclear capability that as kissinger reminded us, it's going to cause a chain of proliferation. we have learned that isis has as many as 20,000 foreign fighters of whom perhaps some 5,000 have western passports with visa waivers in order to get into the united states. it really makes you wonder what kind of lotus land susan vice living in. >> the threat is existential if they ever get a nuclear weapon. >> even if you accept the premise, the next question is, are they doing enough to meet the threat as it exists? just late this week, we had yemen overrun by an al qaeda army. the secretary-general of the u.n. said, yemen is collapsing before our izeeyes. it likes like we have stood by and are watching. >> and the amnesia. what does it take for a national security head to say we have know existential threat when we witnessed not long ago the destruction of the world trade center with 3,000 americans were killed? nothing like this happened in the 1940s. >> briefly, the deal with -- the cease-fire with ukraine this week victory for putin

kissinger other nations in world and the region like other nations do plan to have nuclear weapons. how do you evaluate that? >> senator, i'm a little concerned about the trajectory of these negotiations. when you look at the full sweep of them going back to 2003, 2004 when it began as the eu 3. we started with what was a multilateral negotiation with the objective of preventing iran from developing a nuclear capability. we now are increasingly in a bilateral negotiation between the united states and iran that is aimed -- as secretary kerry said to increase the sneak out time of a nuclear weapon to a year. i don't know what the state of the negotiation is. the press reports are indicates that iran might be able to keep thousands and thousands of centrifuges without taking them down is very concerning to me because i think there is a time limit in the negotiation that was agreed to in the joint plan of action. it will be time limited. whether it is 20 years, 30 years, or ten years. that time limit runs out, all of the sanctions are gone, iran is treated as a normal nation. in spite o

henry kissinger, schultz madeleine albright all testified last week. these are incredibly counted people. but we have those people. i'm not worried about that at all. >> so the new bush cabinet would have no difficulties? >> that is a 15 yard penalty. [laughter] >> that wasn't my best question right? [laughter] one could easily conclude that a discussion of sovereign states the way we have been proceeding, is much easier than a discussion of the isis phenomenon. you mentioned it in your speech. what to make of this, a stateless entity, carving out territory to incorporate it into an image of what they perceive to be a caliphate. how do you -- what type of diplomacy do you apply here? >> no diplomacy. with them directly? the strategy needs to be restrain them, tighten the noose, and take them out. it has to be done in concert with folks in the region. look at jordan. its population has grown with refugees from syria and iraq and previous wars with israel. this country is a powder keg. similarly, other countries in the region are seeing real challenges,

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we are looking at an iran that's coming so close to nuclear capability that as henry kissinger recently reminded us it will cause a chain of proliferation in the world's most volatile region. we just learned that isis has as many as 20,000 foreign fighters of whom perhaps some 5,000 have western pass ports with visa -- with visa waivers in order to get into the united states. so it really makes you wonder what kind of lotus land susan rice is living in. >> also the threat is existential if these jihadists ever get a nuclear weapon. >> and even if you accept their premise, paul, the next question is are they doing enough to meet the threat as it exists? i mean, just late this week we had yemen overrun by the army. and yemen is a collapsing before our eyes, we cannot stand by and watch. but it looks like we are. we have. >> and the amnesia. what does it take for a national security head to say we have no existential threat when we have witnessed not long ago the destruction of the world trade center, with 3,000 americans who were killed. nothing like this ever happened in the 1940s. >> br

. >> it reminds of me of that quote from kissinger about the president he has all these chess moves out but doesn't know how to finish the game. here is the thing, we have to be specific on that qatar is doing. this is a safe haven for striss, it's not just isis it's hamas, it's the taliban, it's all sorts of terrorist groups throughout the region. it is straddling the fence, playing both sides of the aisle. i can peck wuk put esh pressure on it, i think mike is right. what is effective and what do we get in the united states. >> carrie you cannot straddle the fence when to comes to isis. can you? >> everybody, do you know what it's so easy we're across on this side of the atlantic, qatar is in a dangerous neighborhood. they helped dis movie gaddafi, they helped broker peace between hamas and israel. they helped fight against assad whereas our president is a coward and won't go fight against assad. so i trust in some ways what qatar is doing and i agree with steve that we have not been a reliable ally to qatar. >> john, frankly i don't trust qatar that much at all in their dealings in t

so they were all there and kissinger and all those awful people. i don't know why i was so -- maybe i was just out in the crowd there. i don't know why i did this. but i took this and i walked over to him and i drew a band-aid on his head. you can get wrestled to the ground for that sort of thing. >> yeah. >> the secret service guy came over and said, you do that again, you'll never cartoon in this town again. >> well, i spent a day with president ford at the ford library. he had invited me out to lecture there. and i thought he was very level, balanced, intelligent and commendable figure. and by no means slow upstairs, by no means. and i think he's an example of how through the media or some wisecrack by another politician, these people can be typecast in the most unfair fashion. and i think his presidency is waiting for somebody to write a good book about him. brief as it was, it was very interesting. and i personally think that what he did to pardon nixon was a noble and admirable decision that clearly cost him from getting reelected. it was not

kissinger, albright, and shultz. now, in light of the new threat should more attention being given to this than we have in the past? i noticed when you used the word -- you ticked off five of the areas that have not been given proper attention, this wasn't one of those areas. do you think it should be? >> senator inhofe, i was as undersecretary member of the nuclear weapons council and followed the issues closely and was very, very concerned throughout my tenure about the state of our aging nuclear force. ehaven't bailt new nuclear weapon since 1988. we haven't tested one since 1991. there are lots of ways we maintain the safety and surety of the stockpile. but as time goes on and particularly not only as the inevitable corrosion and degradation of components goes on, but also the loss of human capital because we are not able to get the best and brightest minds in the field the way we used to be able to do, i think it's a matter of really increasing concern. we are unfortunately, i think living through a period where

the wisdom of henry kissinger should never be debated.ndan: that is an admirable solution but we are dealing with somebody who talks often about history and the historical attachment of time you to russia. olivia: -- of crimea to russia. olivia: yeah, he called a historical homeland. christopher: it is now called a terrorist moved by the ukrainian government. well, all conflicts end with people who are called terrorists. ♪ he's out there. there's a guy out there whose making a name for himself in a sport where your name and maybe a number are what define you. somewhere in that pack is a driver that can intimidate the intimidator. a guy that can take the king 7 and make it 8. heck. maybe even 9. make no mistake about it. they're out there. i guarantee it. welcome to the nascar xfinity series. tom: good morning, everyone. "bloomberg surveillance." tom keene here. do not forget, janet yellen later this morning with possibly acrimonious testimony and q&a with the house. let's get to top headlines. olivia: fed chair janet yellen is back on cap

in 1970 henry kissinger managed to maneuver soviets out of the mid he middle east.e were the dominant power in the region for four decades. in six years of obama that has evaporated. >> two extreme weather now. millions of americans getting hit with a brutal blast of cold and snow. >> they have seen 17 inches in the last two and a half weeks. now they could drop another foot. maria molina is tracking all of it for us. what can we expect? >> the active weather continues across the middleeast. it is moving into parts of the midwest and into the northeast. you are looking at windchill temperatures below zero and up into care beau maine and down into atlanta. you are only in the teens this morning. over the next several mornings you are going to continue to see several arctic air masses continuing southward. these are actual moreforecast temperatures. we are looking at temperatures being below zero in chicago and buffalo. take a look at the forecast low in new york city 2 degrees in monday morning widespread cold across most of the country. in denver looking at a temper

charlie: henry kissinger sat where you have sat, and you both are students of foreign policy.e said we have to recognize russia has an interest in the ukraine and a history in the ukraine. how do you recognize that in terms of the solution of the future of the ukraine? the you choose where to go? or do you do more to tailor your impact and create a circumstance so that that element of russia-ukraine will be stabilized? bill: russians don't get to make ukraine's sovereign choices no more than we do. i think you have clearly seen an interest in some sort of association with the european union and they see that as offering a lot of economic opportunity. charlie: and in doing that, do they give the back of the hand to russia? bill: not necessarily. without being pollyanna show about it, recent circumstances make it hard to think in these terms. it is entirely conceivable that ukraine that has more of a connection to the eu can be of benefit to russia as well. economic connections will be very important. it is not impossible to find that kind of balance. a lot of that sense has bee

rice secretary rice and read many of the writings of secretary kissinger. there are many others.i don't want to.to one person. my.is this, there has been a bipartisan consensus in democratic and republican administrations that a stronger america needs to a safer world. our enemies need to fear us, our friends need to trust us and we need to have the military might not just to win but to be dominant and deter threats to america. that consensus seems to be fraying. i would argue that we have made to deep cuts in the pentagon's budget. you go back to sec. gates analysis, the last time within the department their was a a bottom-up approach to what the department really needed. and unfortunately it is becoming more partisan as opposed to bipartisan. i think a return to that traditional foreign-policy of strength, piece through strength is what we need is a country. it is true. we are currently projecting to too many people unpredictability. you see the the world becoming a more chaotic and unpredictable less safe place. we are facing more and more asymmetrical threats, whether it's cy

kissinger's book "world order," mr. scowcroft, he talks about the westphalian system and your remarks touched me a bit. it does appear -- you mentioned china not being part of that history. at least with the people of the middle east were not also part of any kind of understanding of what went on at the peace of westphal ya. do we have a miscommunication, and i'll ask both of you, of the misunderstanding of the nation state and the reality of the nation state in that area and a better understanding might make us more effective in response -- in responding to the challenges we face there?in responding to the challenges we face there? >> i think that is possible, but i think the middle east is a unique place. for centuries it belonged to the ottoman empire which loosely governed it and then with the collapse of the ottoman empire after world war i, the middle east was redrawn, the map was redrawn with the agreement quite arbitrarily to pursue the interest that the british and the french had in it. those i think, zbig said

talking to kissinger at least 20 meetings. and that and that is how he has figured out that by targeting individuals in this is a parting. and what we did commented on the fact that he never asked any questions. just listened. he thinks that when you pose questions to people it tells more about you than anything else. he also wants to show and what he doesn't know by asking questions. he also gets a lot of information by not asking those questions that could be useful. he deals with everything as a recruitment exercise of the weakness. but he does not necessarily that have a lot of information about the complex societies in which we live in. the illegals, clandestine and talk over spies that are around everywhere. they don't understand quite how the society works. and you have trying to steal information in an open society. one of the limitations he doesn't really understand how we work. that's a very great danger for him. that means he is always accompanying any and the information that putin has he does not necessarily have

protesters disrupted a senate armed services committee hearing where former secretary of state henry kissingeras about to protest. mccain called the protesters low-life scum. >> nbc used the network time on the super bowl to tell about a show called "the voice." we have a copy of it right here. >> the new season of america's favorite singing competition is coming soon. don't miss the premier episode featuring mind-blowing performances and special guest judge, senator john mccain. >> get out of here, you low-life scum. >> next, a debate over whether or not to vaccinate children against measles has been a hot topic. so it was only a matter of time before jon stewart of "the daily show" weighed in, do vaccines only work when everybody has them. >> it's like america is in an isolated farmhouse and the measles are zombies. and for some inexplicable reason they are have risen from the dead and are looking for brains. they have given the job of boarding up the doors and windows because zombies have a very difficult time with wood. and trouble getting. and you trust everybody's going to do their job a