from what we understand as marcum said it's the retail side that is broad band internet access. this whole idea is this -- >> bill kanard or the duck? >> the duck i guess. coming back to this is the clearly edge providers are not common carriers. >> they're not common carriers today. we have to see how this order is worded. you could end up being a common carrier tomorrow. bet you are call saul. it's the wordage that must be gone through. >> i think especially in a world -- again what happens in the order if we don't know. if they're justifying the rules under both 706 and title 2 they are doing so by making it appeal to terminating access monopoly. if they are able, as far as the court is concerned to do this without so narrowly defining telecommunications so it might exclude some edge providers. it's not clear who can be exempted from this. a weather website or something like that. put something up. there's no communications. i don't know. google will have concerns. the big internet providers, i doubt are going to find clearance, shelter from the storm and a court may not find