what symptoms do ptsd victims show?ter math of a life threaten situation that results in four groups of symptoms. the first is called unwanted recall where people have thoughts of the trauma nightmares flashbacks psychological response to triggering events. the second is called avoidance where people actually go out of their way to avoid thinking of the event. the third is called negative thoughts and emotions and the most common are feeling detached and distant from things going on around them not wanting to socialize and the fourth group of symptoms is what we think of as ptsd like being easily startled and jumpy. being hypervigilant and suspicious. being upset more easily and having difficulty with sleep and concentration. now, you notice what i didn't say, carol, and that is violence and murder. those are not typical symptoms of ptsd. >> so when you heard eddie ray routh rambling 90-minute confession and he says i can only term it crazy stuff, would you as a doctor listen to that confession and say, yes, this man su

because you have ptsd doesn't mean they're eligible for an insanity defense. >> by no means and ptsd alone is almost by definition not insanity. because obviously, like most mental illnesses, there's a range. most people who have ptsd get over it and return to society and do fine. but ptsd alone by no means is legal insanity. >> marcus, the horrible irony, the sad irony of the whole situation is chris died trying to help somebody who had served this country, someone who allegedly was suffering from ptsd and something else, fact that person ended up being the one who killed him is just, it's just such a horrific irony. it's awful. >> it is. i mean, i guess that's the best word to describe it and the tragic irony. but i feel, melanie is up there at the trial. she was texting me -- >> melanie is your wife. >> yeah, i'm sorry. my wife texted me while she was up there with taya and she is stressed out. so i know if my wife is stressed out, taya is stressed out. she had to get on the stand and testify. it's been two years. the two kids are old enough to know what happened with their father

you have chris kyle who suffered from ptsd but helped others but routh family says he suffered from ptsdwe take away from this trial when it comes to ptsd? >> the simple fact that ptsd is not a clearly diagnosable issue and there's a scale of severity. it's not a one size fits all shoe when it comes to ptsd symptomology. one person may suffer and function well in society, another may need serious psychiatric help. >> do you think eddie ray routh was suffering from ptsd? >> i would have to see his records to know fully what his level of ptsd was. being in combat and seeing the things that take place in combat and taking part in those things it would be a safe assumption. >> so a mental health expert told the court that routh has a mental illness and not ptsd. from your experience dealing with victims, could routh's military service made an existing mental illness worse? >> definitely. i think that's one of the less talked about issues dealing with ptsd and soldiers and service members coming home is pre-existing mental health illness and issues. the screening process is not very substanti

littlefield, was very invested in ptsd.on the other side as to why he may not get an insanity verdict. >> jurors are reluctant to cut anyone a break who admittedly did something deeply, deeply horrible. and that's what's going on here. we have someone who admittedly killed two human beings and jurors come to a case like that, and they are not filled with sympathy. the paradox here, of course, is that the worse his behavior the more chance of an insanity defense. the more irrational, the more inexplicable. now you have the fact not just of the movie but of the v.a. scandals that have been going on for the past few months where a jury might be predisposed to say, the v.a. really screwed up. they're the ones that should have kept this guy medicated, locked up. >> they failed to admit him is one of the allegations. but then again, you can have pts and not be insane. most of them don't commit violence. most of their anger is directed inward. >> i think this is going to come down to the battle of the experts. if the defense does

did the ptsd make this defendant legally insane?re worried about the precedent it might send. >> if the defense is successful. let's say that the jury defines ptsd equals legal insanity. you're going to have one step forward for insangity and 100 steps back for every vet and every person that suffers. are you going to hire a vet knowing that if he does something or he goes off his rocker because of ptsd then he has a legal defense. >> it's a legal argument for everyone who drives dwi, they're alcoholics? >> they were claiming ptsg to legal insangity. >> it's a degree. >> it's a degree of ptsd. >> you're not guilty by reason of insanity. you're not guilty a little bit you're not guilty. >> would you agree, arthur that this will set a presscedent for veteran who is may suffer from ptsd. >> there are degrees of it. you can have cancer that's treatable with a laser and you're fine and there's another another -- a judge will not allow her testimony before a jury. >> the jury is going to have the answer that question, did he suffer from p

you have the history of ptsd.his movie and this book that really outlines the difficulties of reintegrating into society after seeing this kind of violence in a war. >> what you're saying basically is the movie could work to the allege the shooter's advantage. >> i do think so. i think that we are as a society more cognizant now of the real trauma that our soldiers experience. and i think ptsd, given his history, is a real viable option for the defense. >> certainly kyle, jeffrey toobin, if not mr. littlefield, was very invested in ptsd. and having people under how bad it is and what it does. what's on the other side of that analysis why this man may not get an insanity verdict? >> jurors are very reluctant to cut anyone a break who admittedly did something deeply, deeply horrible. and that's what's gone on here. we have someone who admittedly killed two human beings, and jurors understandably come to a case like that, and they are not filled with sympathy. the paradox here, of course, is that the worse his behavi

. >> reporter: the defense is claiming routh is not guilty by reason of insanity arguing ptsd from the time in the military led to the murder. they showed the jury the routh police interrogation video, head down hands cuffed. routh appears to be napping at the start of the video. later the jury watches him look around the room at one point trying to put on his glasses, not easy with his hands behind his back. of course it's what he says to the texas ranger hours after shooting chris kyle and chad littlefield at this gun range that may matter most. you know what you did today is wrong, right? you understand that asked the ranger. yes, sir replies routh. the judge would not allow audio to be broadcast until after the verdict. but routh further acknowledges his guilt by apologizing to the victims' families. i'd apologize for what i'd done. if i could do it differently, aid do it a lot differently. he does detail parts of the crime like who shot first. chris kyle the hero of the blockbuster "american snieter." >> if i can't see him, i can't shoot him. >> they feel invincible with youere. >

you were diagnosed with ptsd.perience with ptsd and also how you're concerned that this case here in texas could re-ignite a debate without a lot of information? >> well here's the thing. when people talk about ptsd they always focus on the war. ptsd can come from all kinds of situations in life. prior to any kind of military service. you know i've been living with ptsd since i was a child. i wasn't diagnosed with it until after the war, but i had been dealing with it since childhood. and -- what's going on with this case here in texas is it's really -- it's reached a stigmatizing, re-stigmatizing ptsd making people with ptsd look like they're insane and we're not. >> not only that also the discussion that ptsd was, according to the defense, somehow related to his actually desire to kill and we were just talking to kendra coffey. the fact is ptsd those has suffer from it there's no evidence there is any propensity for violence? >> and there really isn't. you know i'm a public speaker and travel around the world wo

. >> reporter: the defense claiming ralph is not guilty by reason of insanity, arguing ptsd from his time in the military made him turn the gun on two men trying to help him. >> when he took their lives, he was in the grip of a psychosis. >> reporter: first to take the stand, chris kyle's widow tea. she isn't buying ralph's defense. today in court she said as much with tears as she did with words. while the judge has banned audio recordings of witnesses, my colleague ryan owens is in the courtroom. >> one of the prosecutor's first questions, who were you married to? tea could barely whisper the words "chris kyle." >> reporter: a wife's plea to the jury made up mostly of women, ten women, two men. >> i'd be far more concerned about the fact that it's ten texans than ten women. texas is not where you want to be presenting an insanity defense if you're the defendant. >> is it enough for the defense to say there's evidence of this guy was mentally ill, for him to therefore not be held responsible for the deaths? >> not enough to just say he was mentally ill. you have to be able to demons

sniper exposes posttraumatic stress disorder, or ptsd. a largely underrepresented and underserved reality, facing america's fighting men, women, and their families. >> it's about the struggles that people go through being at home and being at war because more military vets are coming back because of medical advancements and we have to take care of them. >> kyle was killed by eddie ray routh, a u.s. veteran diagnosed with ptsd while the two were at a texas gun range. his murder trial is set to begin this week, a reminder of the human toll at the heart of this blockbuster. a disease that plagues america's warriors. and that's a truth as real as the enduring pain kyle's family still feels over his death. >> it's sort of a picture of humanity and what we go through when we fight for something we believe in and are affected by it and then have to fight to find our way back to each other. >> so who was chris kyle? let's bring in jeff kyle, chris' brother and a u.s. marine. scott mcewen and co-author of american sniper and james "spider" marx. h

there's this narrative that ptsd is somehow culpable in -- >> at the end of the day ptsd is a real illnessthing that honorable men and women suffer from. they come back from a combat related experience with a renewed and unique perspective on mortality. it may make them more gun shy, it may make them a lot of things different in their life, but it does not make them homicidal. post-traumatic stress disorder if it harms anyone it harms that veteran him or herself. we have 20000 vet trachbs commits suicide. the first case just a few years ago of a veteran that ptsd was the legal reason for his insanity, and even that veteran has reclused and doesn't say publicly that ptsd was the sole cause of what he did. >> okay, of course we're reminding people that earlier in this broadcast that the president signed into law the clay hunt save act because clay hunt had committed suicide and the president hopes that this act will help others. i want to read you a quote that we received from chris kyle's wife. >> chris and many other men and women serves in the armed services have -- a part of the american

officers suffering from ptsd can present a danger to. thes or others or may be rendered ineffect enough proffering the essential duties. without workers compensation coverage for ptsd and the protections off erred under the workers compensation act officers might be unwilling to admit they have ptsd. this can have serious consequences for the officer both professionally and permanently and can present a significant liability to their employer. in the weeks following sandy hook i, along with hundreds of other police officers from around the state of connecticut, von volunteered to work and cover shifts for the new town police adapt. it was clear our brothers and sisters were physically and emotionally exhausted. so i am now respectfully asking that you do the same for those officers who are suffering from ptsd, and that you help them by delivering to the president in your report to him on march 2nd the message i have tried to convey to you today, that ptsd is a real problem in policing, that it cannot be ignored and should be comforts und

what do you think this trial does to the discussion of ptsd nationally? >> lawrence, i think this trial will bring the light that there are a lot of veterans out there that are suffering as they come back from war. when we send our young men and women into harm's way, it better be damn right for the right reasons. just like i would say the movie "american sniper" showed how chris kyle went and served four deployments, came back, and had some issues. it was not easy for him when he came home. it's not easy for most veterans when they come home. and lawrence, i say that. i'm a champion for my fellow veterans. the majority of them are doing great. but when you have hundreds of thousands coming back from the longest war in american history, the iraq and afghanistan wars, you know, 20% of them are suffering from ptsd. that's a problem. it's not a problem just for the government to solve. it's a problem for all of us as americans. we're the ones, our political leaders are the ones that sent them in harm's way. it's our responsibility to be there for the reinteg

' compensation act, officers might be unwilling to admit they have ptsd. this can have serious consequences for the officer both professionally and personally, and can present a civic liability to their employer. in the weeks following sandy hook, i, along with hundreds of other police officers from around the state of connecticut, volunteered to work and cover shifts for newtown police department. it was clear us that our brother and sister officers in newtown were physically and, even more so, emotionally exhausted. so i am now respectfully asking that you do the same for those officers who are suffering from ptsd and that you help them by delivering to the president in your report to him on march 2 the message that i have tried to convey to you today, that ptsd is a real problem in policing, that it cannot be ignored, and that it should be covered under workers' compensation in every state in this country. thank you for your time and for allowing me to speak to you on this topic. >> thank you, sir, for your testimony. next joining us through skype is dr

' compensation act, officers might be unwilling to admit they have ptsd. this can have serious consequences for the officer both professionally and personally and can present a civic liability to their employer. in the weeks following sandy hook, i, along with hundreds of other police officers from around the state of connecticut, volunteered to work and cover shifts for newttown police department. it was clear us that our brother and sister officers in newtown were physically and, even more so emotionally exhausted. so i am now respectfully asking that you do the same for those officers who are suffering from ptsd and that you help them by delivering to the president in your report to him on march 2nd the message that i have tried to convey to you today, that ptsd is a real problem in policing that it cannot be ignored and that it should be covered under workers' compensation in every state in this country. thank you for your time and for allowing me to speak to you on this topic. >> thank you, sir for your testimony. next joining us through skype is dr.

people with ptsd don't usually kill people. >> i have met some people with ptsd in addition to havingf flashbacks or the horror, they have horrible headaches. some i have spoken to have terrible headaches. >> they can. but, greta, in this instance, he was being treated because he was schizophrenic. ptsd does not cause schizophrenia. treated at the v.a. hospital. picked up at this local mental health clinic, sent to the v.a. hospital for further care because they thought he was a danger to himself and others. and somehow he was release dollars from the v.a. hospital with a couple of days over the objections of the family. and just a few days before he did this -- these outrageous murders. so there is a a lot of issues that are are being looked at the v.a. hospital why they would have released him when he was found by other mental health workers to be a danger to himself and others. >> and the v.a. will say well privacy concerns we can't tell you. anyway, we will try to find out. >> you have been there before. >> anyway dr. baden thank you, sir. >> thank you greta. >> straight ahead, ta

a lot of us don't call it ptsd anymore. d, get rid of the disorder. >> we don't want it to be a disorder. >> it doesn't matter the kind of pts you have. and it doesn't matter what kind of pts you have, whether it's fighting in another country or you witnessed one of your friend's child die here in new york, it's the same kind of pts. and that's one of the things that's changed over time. and different ways. i think we've seen in the beginning we were really caring about those in icu, those that were just injured and then we help them when they go back to their communities, because nobody really knows many veterans in their neighborhood. about 1% of americans are serving in this war compared to previous wars that we've had. and now you're looking at veterans helping veterans. which is exactly what you're doing. those have been incredibly efficient and effective. service dogs, you get some of these guys that come back and train service dogs to help others. it's helping them too. a good friend of ours has done the same thing t

and if ptsd can succeed as a defense for murder.according to routh's attorney, the dallas va hospital released routh just two days before the crime was committed against the family's wishes. >> all right heidi, thank you. andrew o'brien is a u.s. army veteran, and he helps veterans with ptsd through his organization and it's called the welcoming home soldier project. and what do you think of this plea by routh? >> i completely disagree with it. i don't feel as though ptsd should be used as an insanity plea. because people with ptsd are not insane. >> >> so obviously, it's an attempt to save his life, and to stay out of jail, i guess but if more than that? when veterans watch this trial what are they going to say about this plea? >> we, i mean me myself, i completely disagree with it. i don't believe -- i've heard about the things that he said to the police, about taking souls, and about all of these things that he was saying, they had nothing to do with ptsd, and i speak around the world about this, and i've never heard anyone talk

so ptsd is a hallmark of ptsd number one you've been exposed to a horrific stress and that you have intrusivees of that event and that you might do a lot to try to avoid those memories to try to suppress it but also it's the overreaction to simulate the environment, things that remind you of this event. you have this guy surrounded by firearms who could lose track of reality. the question is going to be in most states the question is did you know right from wrong? okay. if you don't know right from wrong, it could be that you qualify for an insanity plea. if you know right from wrong even knowing it were you unable to conform your behavior to the rights of the law? if this man believed the people with him were enemy combat ants or that they had -- they were posturing in a way that signified that they were going to attack him, that could be the basis of an insanity defense but they would have to show records, showing that this has been a series of symptoms that have plagued him for years for which he sought treatment and that's usually still not enough because the truth is jurories are loathe

he has gone through ptsd, a lot of drinking and drugs. he seems to be in a better place now but very fragile and particularly from that platoon really seriously affected him. they came back different people and i think they always will be. >> host: you touched on it already but i think especially when you start talking about the british and american relationship and the dynamics really in helmand that is a place where the british took a beating especially before at the american surge of troops in early 2010. what surprised you if anything in terms of what they were dealing with it being in terms of taliban tactics or the lack of equipment, just the overall day-to-day struggles they had? >> guest: the welsh guardsman's was in the welsh guard area of operations but one of the things that happened was the british were robbing peter to the tape also they were taking soldiers to put an operations and sustaining soldiers or were killed in that period. they were more in demand than usual. i found there was a lack of coherent strategy from britis

he would use this claim of ptsd. >> and, dan, ptsd not the same as insanity. >> that's right.y i shouldn't be held responsible for my actions. it has to be my ptsd was so bad that i didn't understand right from wrong. but, look in this case this is a comparatively good insanity claim and what i mean by that is the insanity defense is always tough -- >> emphasis on comparatively. >> hang on one sec. it's really tough in a state like texas, it's really hard to win an insanity defense but they have evidence here of not just mental illness, but of comments he made afterwards that may suggest that he didn't understand what he did was so terrible. that's the important thing in this case and to have the victim himself having said this dude is straight up nuts shall that's not a legal or medical assessment but is sure helpful to the defense. >> you're not buying it nancy. >> this is what i think about that. what they're going to do is bring in surveillance video from the local taco bell that shows that right after gunning these two men down in cold blood, shooting them in the back in

so whether or not he has ptsd is really not the issue.new what he was doing was wrong and i think the evidence on that point is absolutely clear. >> we have to leave it there. thank you sech for setting the table for us here obviously a tragedy and such a crazy and awful twisted end to the life of chris kyle an american hero. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you martha. >> 12 minutes before the hour. jon scott is up next. "happening now" at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. >> good morning, bill. president obama formally asking congress to authorize war against isis as the conflict spreads. are we doing enough? plus the death toll from the war in eastern ukraine is rising. how do we contain russian aggression? bob cusak joins us with more on his investigation into the irs targeting scandal. why won't the irs release the information? we've been covering the increasing issue increasing power on the issue of incoming inequality. politicians talk about it a lot but does it work? surprising answers coming up. >> we'll see you then. okay? >>

i mean, there is going to be as you said a strong case for the ptsd argument.but prosecute ors, they have to do their job, as well. so again, i'd like to hear your take in terms of how this is going to be played out in the courtroom. >> i've had a case where the defendant allegedly had ptsd and. case the jury hung. it's very difficult for a juror to find beyond a reasonable doubt when there is really good evidence of ptsd that didn't play a role. sometimes what happens is the jury sort of splits the baby. we say they don't think he's guilty of the top charge, but we don't want to acquit him. so prosecution has to focus on the things that make the case severe and particularly maybe some of the things he did afterwards in taking chris kril's vehiclekril kyle's vehicle from the scene that indicate maybe he was sane and he was doing something he knew was wrong. >> it's a sad case all around for sure. alex little, thank you very much. and that trial is set to begin this wednesday. thank you very much. >>> and it's sunday. so that means the doctors are in. >> is itco

can the prosecution say this isn't a ptsd.s just a bad guy. >> there's another issue with that, jon. the prosecution has to be careful with overplaying that hand. in fact, i think the defense team may be the one that's going to be trying to get a lot of that evidence in. why? because look. crazy people do crazy things. they're going to say, yeah this was not an isolated incident. this was a guy who was living with the horrors of what he experienced serving his country abroad. he was living with the difficultiys of ptsd. was there alcohol and marijuana use? absolutely but any experts, and experts will testify to this in this trial i'm sure will tell you one of the most common things that veterans returning who are suffering from ptsd whether it's diagnosed or undiagnosed do is they self med indicate with marijuana, narcotic drugs and alcohol so that could risk, if the prosecution can get that evidence in it could also backfire and play into the defense's hand in this case. jon: obviously it is receiving a huge amount of attenti

they do acknowledge that some get it but they cite statistics showing that ptsd is higher in than the equivalent civilian possession and a state the americans are overdiagnosed. i think there are heads in the sand here because i had a little bit of skepticism of ptsd and what is it and is it just a way of getting out of things or the kind of benefits afterwards. but being out there with people and those that served and were on board he actually drank himself to death when he got back to britain. and i view these as casualties. although we know about the problems of being in the va system and the british are behind all this. >> host: is there any talk about reinventing the system or improving the system are developing a new way to take care of it? >> guest: there's there is always a debate about it and for instance they talk about a new tracking system so that in the national health service you put in a code which shows doctors that you still have a national health system where soldiers leave the military become veterans and ben are in the system with very little sort of help and any k

routh, you thought you had ptsd before.. >> greg abbot took the twitter. he wrote justice chris kyle's killer convicted of capital murder. #americansniper. what happens next, well the defense is going tew pealo appeal. they're going to say routh couldn't get a fair deal because of the american sniper movie, so big. where is it going to go? >> nowhere. >> we'll keep you posted. >> six minutes past the top of the hour. we have a fox news alert. >> brand new video in to fox news shows the iranian military launching missiles on an elaborate fake u.s. aircraft carrier. >> kevin corke is live at the white house with what those drills could be all about. what do you know? >> good morning. this is not novel. think back to december. we saw the iranian revolutionary guard conducting drills. but what is interesting about this latest drill is as you pointed out, there's a replica if you will of a u.s. aircraft carrier. take a look at the pictures and really we saw speed boats in the video, all attacking this so-called aircraft carrier

i'm a veteran and have ptsd?'s not how it works. everybody has stress in their life. yeah, do we have some more than other when we were overseas? absolutely. was he in the sand box? yeah locked up in the armory? never saw a combat. bottom line is he was an angry drunk. that's what came out. he'd get drunk get high, do something bad, cops show up say i was a veteran have ptsd throw him in the mental hospital, be out doing dope, getting drugs, getting angry. and he wore that out. and that's what the d.a. pointed out. at the very end of it when, i mean, i give the defense credit. i mean, those guys they worked their butt -- they pulled everything out to get this guy to not be found guilty. it showed. but when the d.a. stood up, he put a spanking on -- he dropped that nail in that coffin. made it perfectly clear to the jury. the jury came back and their verdict was absolute. the defense even asked them to individually say yes or no and there was no hesitation in anybody's voice. >> all right. last question real quick

we don't know if it can treat a soldier'ssoldier's ptsd. >> i'm skeptical if it can treat ptsd. right now i could go out and you know tell a doctor that i'm suffering from angst and i need marijuana and i could get it and bring it back to my office and use it legally. but if i want to study its effect on the brain and the body that would take me maybe years and that's really crazy. >> heroin, cocaine lsd k mzna, ecstasy, all of these drugs are much easier to study than marijuana. >> brad best of your knowledge working to legitimize marijuana. >> studying as istudying as piern or lsd that'saspirin or lsd. >> independent researchers require an open ended health review unique to pot which can stall research forever. >> we have been looking for a study on marijuana particularly ptsd for years now. >> the legal purchaser is the federal government, only authorized the study of potential harm not benefit. >> it's a choke point that prevents researchers from getting marijuana simply by withholding marijuana. researchers are not able to conduct the research. >> how do you account for thi

would you go to a shooting range with a vet with ptsd? >> absolutely.arry: sabrina, i think it's well known you're canadian and a lesbian. >> why are you outing me in front of all these people? >> larry: it's an epic combo platter. >> it really is. >> larry: imagine there are two terrorists. one is about to blow up a roomful of canadians and the other is about to blow up a roomful of lesbians -- >> whoo! >> larry: hold on! you're a sniper and you only have one bullet, which terrorist do you take out? >> oh, my goodness! >> larry: keep it 100. you know i'm still making money in canada, so i'm going to have to say i'm saving canada. >> larry: what? saving canada? >> i'm already married. >> larry: she kept it 100! that's our "keep it 100"! we'll be back with more! (cheers and applause) you pay for your data every month. so why does your carrier take back what you don't use? it's your data! all your unused data and if you switch now, we'll even give you 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data on the spot. 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data. only from t-mobile. ♪ pep

so i don't know, i don't see the ptsd diagnosis, and he had a serious mental condition, and if chris had known the true nature of the mental health and i don't think that chris would have ever entertained taking thoim the shooting range. >> so he did not know, because if you ask some people if people are suffering from ptsd the last thing i would do is to take them to a gun range or anywhere near. >> it is a lot of misconceptions of what ptsd does and there are a lot of the veterans who have been in combat and unfortunately, they have come home with the trauma, and whether it is diagnosed or not, and they are not running around shooting people. >> and the shooting range is a very common ground for veterans, and especially the combat veterans and so i think that chris kyle was sold a story tahat he believed in, and he went to the range, and he said that this is a common place, and we will go to the range and have a few beers afterwards and talk about thing s things, and i think that chris, and people need to remember that chris is a hero and this is a guy who had made millions of doll

>> ptsd insanity. >> insanity is a defense.it a criminal act, if you are determined to be legally insane, you are excused. but just suffering from ptsd or have schizophrenia and you're not legally insane you are still on the hook for the crime. >> we will be watching for it. when there is news we will tell you about it. dui checkpoints are meant to get people off the road but some are evadeing them all another. and ap history classes may soon be history themselves if a lawmakers gets his way. he said they focus on too much what is bad about america. should that be changed? >>> oklahoma lawmakers are debating a bill that will change the curriculum in public schools. the reason is the classes focus too much on what is bad about america. if it is proved it would focus on the i have a dream speech instead of analysis of gender and racial oppression and the lives of marginalized people. so judge alex -- >> yes. >> there really shouldn't be public schools. we should go to a school where parents of every stripe have a say in the educa

i'm a veteran and have ptsd?it works. everybody has stress in their life. yeah, do we have some more than other when we were overseas? absolutely. was he in the sand box? yeah locked up in the armory? never saw a combat. bottom line is he was an angry drunk. that's what came out. he'd get drunk get high, do something bad, cops show up say i was a veteran have ptsd throw him in the mental hospital, be out doing dope, getting drugs, getting angry. and he wore that out. and that's what the d.a. pointed out. at the very end of it when, i mean, i give the defense credit. i mean, those guys they worked their butt -- they pulled everything out to get this guy to not be found guilty. it showed. but when the d.a. stood up, he put a spanking on -- he dropped that nail in that coffin. made it perfectly clear to the jury. the jury came back and their verdict was absolute. the defense even asked them to individually say yes or no and there was no hesitation in anybody's voice. >> all right. last question real quick. >> the ju

he has gone through ptsd and a lot of drinking and drugs. he seems to be in a better place now but very fragile and the number particularly from that platoon really seriously affected them. they came back different people and i think always will be. >> host: you touched on sangin already been especially when you start talking about the british and the american relationship and the dynamics really the history of helmand that is a place where the british took a beating especially before the american surge of troops in early 2010. what surprised you with anything in terms of what they were dealing with be it in terms of taliban tactics or the lack of equipment, just the overall day-to-day struggles they had? >> guest: signing the welsh guardsman and sangin i wasn't in the welsh guards area of operation but one of the things that happened during panther claw the british were robbing peter to pay paul so they were taking soldiers out of sangin and there was one incident where five british soldiers were killed during that. not because they were mo

and was diagnosed with psychosis, ptsd, depression, mood disorder and substance abuse problems. but experts on both sides downplayed ptsd as a possible factor in the crime. >> the insane defense in particular in texas is a very narrow defense. often becomes a battle of experts and the extent by which the jury gives weight to their testimony. >> reporter: the prosecution's expert told the jury routh was not insane but high. he admits to smoking pot and drinking whiskey before the crime. and he admits he was angry at his own life and at his victims because they wouldn't talk to him. the former marine who spoke of the apocalypse upon his arrest now awaits his judgment day. routh has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. the trial now in its final days as the movie "american sniper," about one of its victims, will be competing at the oscars this weekend. kyle's widow taya is expected to attend and be back next week in time for closing arguments. lester. >> jacob rascon tonight, thank you. >>> surprising turns in a deadly road rage mystery in las vegas. still to come, that mother

a great deal of attention will be focused on ptsd over the next couple of weeks. kyle's wife says the issues of ptsd should not be a play that that does not explain why routh would have killed her husband and chad littlefield. so there will be a great deal of testimony surrounding that, and that will be really the central focus of this trial to determine as we've been told by the attorney of eddie ray routh, he is pleading not guilty by reason of insanity. and they must convince this jury that eddie ray routh did not know right from wrong at the time of these murders. john? >> interesting. ed lavandera, thanks so much. >>> testimony resumes today at the massachusetts murder trial of former nfl star aaron hernandez. it's been delayed for weather. the judge has granted his ex-fiancee shianna jenkins, immunity. she will be able to testify without implicating herself. prosecutors believe she followed instructions from hernandez to dispose of the gun allegedly used in the shooting death of odin lloyd in 2013. >>> the bobbie kristina brown case is now a criminal investi