we brought that to you live command you can see it online at teethree. here is an exchange when mr. ernest was asked about recent remarks by former new york city mayor rudy giuliani .. or how the united states is a force for good in the world and a ` the greatest force for good the world has ever seen. so we continued those debates and many have delivered those remarks in this country and around the world. we can set those examples. more generally i can tell you that it's sad to see when somebody who has attained a certain level of public stature and even admiration tarnishes that legacy so thoroughly and the truth is i don't take any joy or vindication or satisfaction from that. i think really the only thing that i feel is i feel sorry for rudy giuliani today. c-span's "washington journal" has been touring the nation's historically black colleges and universities. next a look at tuskegee university in alabama. this is about 45 minutes. >> host: good morning to you. thanks for giving us your time on this series. we have been talking to other presidents on this series. one of the thi