. >> this is what weaponized malware looks like. in 2007 the idaho national laboratory launched aurora, an attack to see if researchers could damage a power plant by hacking into the control system. it destroyed a power joinderor, common. experts worry that black energy could do something similar. >> black energy, where it was found in an industrial controlled system seems to be geared towards taking control of the system, and directing it, rather than sifonic off information from it. >> which is more frightling. >> yes, it is. >> jen manages a team of cyber slooths at fibre eye. a firm in northern virginia. her team hunts hackers, whose level of sophistication hints at the involvement of a nation state, an adverse urea of the u.s. -- adversary of the u.s. >> how can you sure they are russian actors. >> we know that it's been developed by russians in the criminal underground. there are a lot of tell-tale russia. >> because black energy began its life as crime ware, difficult. >> it makes it challenging to tease out is it criminal or

they monetize by stealing and money laundering and can do it with the weapons of war being digital bits and bytes of malware and others want to steal our identities and sell them on the black market. liz: immediately james clapper has come out, the director of national intelligence, it's remote. the chances of this type of massive attack are remote. do you think they're remote? at this point when we have the russian report that just came out saying that 30 nations and banks in those nations have been taken and money taken out of the their atm's. are they overstating this? >> it's an even playing ground when it comes to cyber attacks. the financial sector is probably one of the better ones trying to defend. they're very, very far behind when it comes to these attacks. it's overstated to state it's not going to happen or it's unlikely to happen. we have the capabilities and the things, you know, the different groups out there right now that have the capability of doing this, it's just a matter of time and one thing about the financial sector, they're continuing to step up their games to stop these things. liz