they are as bad as the original process, even if done with annes nettics. people justify that if anaesthetic is given, somehow it cultural practice. these laws and these rules need to be enforced. >> you are one of the leaders in female genital reconstruction. this is knew, you are doing it in the u.s., you were doing it in burkina faso. talk about how you were doing that, and how it's been received. >> correct, i was fortunate to be contacted by an international relief organization called cliter-aid, and asked if i was train in paris with dr peter faulis who has down nearly 4,000 reconstructions. it's important to realise a couple of myths of female mutilation, one is that the clitoris is fully removed. that's not true. to the damage of f g.m. is the covering and the obscuring of the cliterous so that if a - if a surgeon can uncover that and bring it closer to the service there's a lot of er-otto genic materials there. in this procedure we can reconstruct a sensitive functional cliterous. so that was the work that i set out to do in 2007 when i trained wit