there is nothing to be served by putting him in captivity in the united states. >> a couple of points by the article 32. it's not really a grand jury. it's more like a preliminary hearing, but the most significant difference between a civilian preliminary hearing and article 32 is that the outcome is not binding. it's just a recommendation to the the convening party. even if the recommending officer were to recommend not going forward to trial it does not restrict the commanding general from overriding that and sending the case to trial. i don't think that's going to happen. the article 32 is simply looking at the evidence and deciding whether it's strong enough to support the charge, and whether the charges are appropriate for the misconduct. and most article 32 hearings result in a recommendation of going forward so i think that's a very unlikely outcome. i think some type of plea bargain is a more likelyout come. but that require an agreement by both sides. normally the defendant would initiate the process and we just don't know whether they're going to advise any type of plea nego

captivity, and the movements not restrained in any way. remember he came here to san antonio right after he was freed from captiveity, because, well, for two reasons, one, the medical facilities here, because he needed medical facilities, and they have a program here to reintegrating former prisoners of war back into life is one way to describe it. once he come e pleated that, he was given a desk job working in the army at fort sam houston, and that is his life. the only thing that sis different for him is that whenever he leaves the post, he is escorted by two soldiers, and that is to be for his own safety. as to what comes next an article 32 hearing is here at fort sam houstonwustonhouston, and that is to see if it is enough evidence to warrant a court-martial. and the next question is what is often asked, has sergeant bowe bergdahl been reyuunited with his parents since his return are from captivity, but as far as we know there is no face-to-face meet inging. >> martin savage, thank you for that. and i want to bring in former sergeant j

they were held captive for more than a year but their fight for justice has gone on for decades. and they see a window closing if the u.s. and iran forge a future relationship before repairing the damage done, more than three decades ago. mary snow has their story. >> that's me right there in the middle. >> when don cook peers into the past and his 444 days of captivity in iran he also sees unfinished business and he wants to make iran pay. cook was among the youngest of the hostages taken in iran, he recalls the blindfoldings and the mock executions in iran, before being released. more than three decades later, cook considers himself one of the lucky ones. he was able to return to a career at the state department and move on with his life. >> there were some of my colleagues who literally took it to their grave, never got over it. >> and he says he feels it's his responsibility to speak on their behalf in demanding iran compensate them for their time in captivity. >> part of it is to repair a wrong, part of it is to help people even this many years on to get over a situation whi

what do you think of his promotions in captivity?he statement that his lawyer put out, which you can read yourself he includes letters that were sent, or certificates of promotion given to sergeant bergdahl while he was in captivity. caller: well, he was listed as prisoner of war and kept on the payroll. and he was due promotions as he had enough time and grade to get them. if he had been listed as a deserter, all pay and allowances would have been terminated. he was never listed in the official records as a deserter. host: ok. gerald in north carolina democrat. caller: good morning, c-span. how are you wanted you to full day? host: doing well. caller: please allow me as much time as you did those republicans earlier, because i'm a vietnam veteran myself. i have a couple of things to say. first, nothing's been put into judicial record. no witnesses have been cross-examined and stuff like that. everything is premature by saying that he should be shot and stuff like that. number two, republicans are sort of sympathetic to this because

his captivity sounds truly horrific.s he believe and part of releasing that it should preclude him from a court martial? >> well, i'm not going to speak, you know i'm not going tell you what he personally beliefs thaus that's invading the attorney-client privilege. i'll tell you what i think. obviously those kind of factors bear on what is the proper disposition of this matter and i think that you would have to have a heart of stone not to take these really dreadful circumstances into account. and i expect and anticipate that those who make the ultimate decision here whether it should go trial on what ground, how it should be resolved or whether it should not two trial and be handled some other way they will take that into account. if they didn't i would be very puzzled. >> in your writing, in your note to them you note i believe in one military document they basically just kind of describe his captivity in one line sort of saying he was held from this date to this date. do you believe that they so far have taken that in

first, a poorly dressed novice takes a captive. when he takes another captive, he gets a more elaborate costume and better weaponry. taking still another the warrior rises in rank, and so on -- a progression from novice all the way to the highest military rank. these rewards for success in battle were nominally handed out by the king himself. so each time you were successful, he would then reward you with a new costume of higher rank and also with additional economic incentives -- perhaps mantles, which were wealth, rights to certain lands, and more goods. so as you went up, you gained not only in status but you gained economically as well. keach: the elected nobles were often given important responsibilities. they would administer provincial capitals or garrison towns like malinalco. these new elite owed everything to the king, and so they proved reliable surrogates in remote places. elected nobles were also accepted into elite military orders like the eagle and jaguar knights. at malinalco the eagles and jaguars had a shrine carv

visit angieslist.com today. >>> after investigating the circumstancing surrounding captivity over captivityan, sergeant bowe bergdahl could face a penalty. martin savidge has more from san antonio. >> reporter: bowe bergdahl has not been taken into custody and not being held. he came to san antonio last may shortly after he was released from captivity for two purposes. one to get him medically fit and the other to put him through a reintegration program. a program they specialize to help p.o.w.s come back to normal life. once he completed that program, he was given a desk job at ft. sam houston working in the weldingbuild building behind us. he is treated no differently than any other soldier. the same freedoms and privileges with one exception. that they say is when he leaves post, he is escorted by two soldiers. the military maintains that is for his protection. an article 32 hearing will take place in san antonio. it will be determined whether or not the evidence is sufficient enough to move forward with an actual court martial. no date has been announced for that. christine. >> martin t

they are standing above nine captives and a severed head-- the most prominent captive lying dead diagonally acrosshe drway. (narrator) the murals represent captives in abject poses... their gestures plaintive... their hands drpid,thr acg ai men ouif the presentation of a ild-- perhaps an heir to the throne... dancers and musicians play maracas made from gourds instruments made from turtle shells, a drum and trumpets. the celebrants are costumed-- one is a crayfish, another is a crocodile. the murals at bonampak provide a graphic and vivid depiction of the maya-- their cruelty, vanity love of music, and humor. they were left unfinished when the people of bonampak abandoned their city around the year 800. palenque and scores of oth maya cities also suffered from a rising tide of disintegration and social collapse. plenque, with its proud tower surveying the fertile plain that fueled its greatness, was abandoned to the rainforest in the ninth century. the world of the ancient maya, draid by warfare environmental degradation, and drou slipped into history. at palenque and elsewhere, the discove

. >> he escaped from captivity at night when his guards were sleeping. once he was free, he made a horrible discovery. >> translator: my sister was taken captive with my wife. they took about 700 women and children in the village. they took everyone that we cared about. they took all of our dears. for a father a man, his wife is dear to him. his daughters, his sons, family, friends, his tribe. they took everything from us. >> ava, a villager newly married and pregnant was careing for her sick mother so she couldn't escape. >> translator: my mother was crying when they took my father. we asked them where are the men? what did you do to them? they said men are under islamic state now and they will be fined. >> ava and the women were loaded on to buses and taken to syria to be sold as slaves. >> translator: the buyers would check the women. the buyers would ask them to remove their scarf. they would check their hair and their teeth and they would ask their age, and if they haven't had children they would be taken a wives. and those that were sick or not in

rescued from the taliban after five years of captivity.w sergeant bowe bergdahl charged with desertion. the punishment next. does your carpet ever feel rough and dirty? don't avoid it. resolve it. our new formula with a special conditioning ingredient softens your carpet with every use. it's resolve, so you know it cleans and freshens but now it also softens. resolve. a carpet that welcomes you. and try resolve for amazing stain removal the first time. >>> after investigating the circumstances over his captivity by the taliban, the army has charged bowe bergdahl with desertion. he could face life in prison. cnn's martin savage is following the latest. >> reporter: despite the charges against him, it is expected this will be another typical day for sergeant bowe bergdahl. he has not been taken into custody and not being held. you will remember he came to san antonio last may shortly after released from captivity for two purposes. to get him medically might and put him through reintegration program. it is a program to help p.o.w.s sort of co

they are standing above nine captives and a severed head-- the most prominent captive lying dead diagonallyacros. (narrator) the murals represent captives in abject poses... their gestures plaintive... their hands drpid,thr acg ai en ouifr gestures plaintive... thpresentation of a child-- perhaps an heir to the throne... dancers and musicians play maracas made from gourds, instruments made from turtle shells, a drum and trumpets. the celebrants are costumed-- one is a crayfish, another is a crocodile. the murals at bonampak provide a graphic and vivid depiction of the maya-- their cruelty, vanity, love of music, and humor. they were left unfinished when the people of bonampak abandoned their city around the year 800. palenque and scores of oth maya cities also suffered from a rising tide of disintegration and social collapse. plenque, with its proud tower surveying the fertile plain that fueled its greatness, was abandoned to the rainforest in the ninth century. the world of the ancient maya, draid by warfare, environmental degradation, and out slipped into history. at palenque and elsewhere, th

. >> he escaped from captivity at night when his guards were sleeping. once he was free, he made a horrible discovery. >> translator: my sister was taken captive with my wife. they took about 700 women and children in the village. they took everyone that we cared about. they took all of our dears. for a father a man, his wife is dear to him. his daughters, his sons, family, friends, his tribe. they took everything from us. >> ava, a villager newly married and pregnant was careing for her sick mother so she couldn't escape. >> translator: my mother was crying when they took my father. we asked them where are the men? what did you do to them? they said men are under islamic state now and they will be fined. >> ava and the women were loaded on to buses and taken to syria to be sold as slaves. >> translator: the buyers would check the women. the buyers would ask them to remove their scarf. they would check their hair and their teeth and they would ask their age, and if they haven't had children they would be taken a wives. and those that were sick or not in

the 26-year-old was the fourth american to die in isis captivity. mueller was captured back in 2013 after leaving a doctors without borders hospital in syria. u.s. officials confirmed her death last month but have not verified claims by isis that she was killed in a jordanian air strike. will carr has more from or west coast newsroom. will? >> this is quite an emotional ceremony. we heard from a number of kayla mueller's closest friends and family, including her mom, who choked up while she was reading a letter that kayla had sent her while in captivity. we also heard from senator john mccain, who actually teared up during a moment himself. he called kayla an extraordinary young woman and said she was a powerful example to follow. mueller was captured by isis in august of 2013 while she was in syria before she had traveled all over the world protesting genocide, raising awareness for hiv and aids and peacefully standing up for a number of other humanitarian efforts. listen to mueller talk about the syrian conflict in a youtube video she made back in

released a video showing a young boy shooting a palestinian captive. the man identified was accused by i.s.i.l. of being a spy for the israeli intelligence agency. his father said he was killed for trying to leave the group >>> iranian plans to reduce access to contraception. critics say it will set iranian whim when back decades. >>> korean air and its former executive are sued by a flight attendant over what has been known as the knut case. she has been attacked for the way she served nuts. the former executive was jild for obinstructing aviation safety. rob mcbride joins us from seoul. where is she doing this? >> that's right, this is the first civil action to be brought at the wake of the so-called knut rage incident that culminated in the court case. she is fortunately the attend and that served the bag of nuts rather than on a plate, she suffered alleged verbal and physical abuse, and is claiming compensation for her career and for emotional wellbeing damaged by this event. the action being taken talks about ms cho and the airline, and the incred

to gain compensation for the american held captive in iraq. now some lawmakers want to find a different approach by setting up a fund to compensate the former hostages. poller hostages -- or $10,000 for each day they were held captive. >> but 36 years after the embassy was seized the former hostages and their attorney know time is running out. and they are closely monitored the u.s. talks with iran over it's nuclear program. mary snow, al jazeera. he predicts full control within 24 hours. saudi troops have been clashing today with houthis it fooers it's being called the heaviest exchange of cross border fire since it started the offensive last week. this comes as the blame game continues over monday's attack on a refugee camp that killed as many as 40 people including women and children. natasha has more. >> malnourishment and misery were facts of life. here inside the refugee camp when al jazeera visited in 2009. these fled their homes in the north six years ago the ever the same reason they have now been caught in the cross fire. >> a war be

they were told by isis if they talked about their captivity, the remaining captives would be punishedre's essentially only one captive left. that's why javier wrote this piece and talked about it. >> the british man? >> yeah. using his own words in the piece, he's talks about them being demented people psychopaths. these are the words and the acts of a criminal. this has nothing to do with islam. this is the demented isis crucible the strange world they've created for themselves. >> you came in close contact with the taliban. i think of different branches of al qaeda. i'm wondering with this notion of faking out someone, what you don't know if you're going to live or die with this sword to your throat, why is isis doing this? >> well javier in the story talks about this love of theater. and this love of drama. again, it seems like something a criminal would do. there's speculation about why some of the captives seem calm in the execution videos. they've gone tlu many mock executions. they have frankly accepted their fate. i think what i would do in that situation. >> what would you do

they were told by isis if they talked about their captivity, all the remaining captives would be punishedft john cantlie. >> reporter: he was held with more than 20 other western hostages in syria, including james foley, steven sotloff, peter kassig and kayla mueller who are now all dead. kassig told of his own torture, saying when they realized that i was american and that i'd been a soldier in iraq they went crazy. they hung me from the roof and started beating me. i thought they were going to execute me. sometime later, kassig was beheaded. and a defector who witnessed some of the beheadings said that the terrorist group reveres jihadi john as the big boss and says that he is the only one in the group allowed to kill foreigners. pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> many thanks to our pamela brown for that. >>> a 20 year old man accused of shooting police during a protest in ferguson, missouri says the officers beat him up while in custody. >> jeffrey williams is charged with assault after last week's shooting. his attorney says williams is bruised and scarred, but police deny roughing him

he was held in taliban captivity for 5 years after leaving his base in afghanistan in 2009.ow, bergdahl 's defense could center around an army investigation's findings that he walked off his post in an attempt to reach another u.s. base to report on wrongdoing in his unit. we'll get the details from his lawyer, eugene fidell. we'll also speak with matthew hoh, a former marine and state department official who resigned in protest from his post in afghanistan over u.s. policy in september 2009. he says stop persecuting bowe bergdahl, he and his parents have suffered enough -- like all of us veterans. the tsa's secret behavior checklist to spot terrorism behavior. >> gazing down, exaggerating jan and. these signs could apply to almost anyone that is late for a flight. in the words of one of our sources on the program they are a licensed to harass. amy: we speak with intercept reporter cora and the latest on iran nuclear programs. we get the latest, all that and more coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. talks over a n

. >>> the arm ji sergeant held captive from the cal i ban and released during a controversial prisoner swap will be charged with desertion and endangering fellow soldiers. he left his post if 2009 and was captured. if convicted on the endangerment charge, he could face a life sentence. >>> more spinach is being recalled today. this time from target stores. the food and drug administration says simply balanced organic chopped spinach is being recalled because it may be contaminated with listeria. the spinach was sold in steam pouches at target stores across the country. spinach products sold at wegman's in amy's meals and shoppers were recalled earlier this week.

but they are also worried about the dozens of others that remain in captivity.y have been taken to a strong hold that isil has. they don't know if these people will be killed. they don't know if some of them have been killed. they don't know whether they will also be taken to court and have the possibility of paying money before being released. but what we do understand is that the arab tribal elders, in this province, are trying to mediate, try to talk to isil to see whether or not they can secure the release of these people even if the possibility of a prisoner swap. >> zeina, where are we when it comes to imposing some sort of ceasefire in the country putting a stop to the fighting? we are waiting to hear what the u.n. envoy to syria achieved if anything at all. >> reporter: yes, we are waiting for the u.n. reaction, stefan has been for months now trying to finalize ideal for some sort of freeze in the fighting in syria's largest city aleppo in the north of the countries rich. it's a divided city the west is controlled by the government, the east controlled b

and he wanted to kill the captives. now, according to islamic teaching you cannot kill captives you cannot kill prisoners of war but he made a pledge to god -- and he's like a companion of the prophet -- so he made a fatwa that he could kill the captives. so he started killing them but also there was the problem of, you know, it's not a river, he he can't make a river from blood. probably he didn't think it through. so at some point he kind of, you know released a dam nearby, and he created a river. eventually, he got what he wanted. now, you can as a muslim cleric if you want to address the ideas of isis and say why are you killing captives, this is not acceptable by islam isis can just cite that example. so we can debate, you know, all day long with isis but it happened in islamic history. so what they do is, basically defer anyone who argues with them who was very respected in islam by muslims or by sunnis -- >> by sunnis. >> by sunnis, exactly. he's respected by sunnis, so a sign gnu cleric would not dare to -- sunn

i think the mitigation of captivity and his behavior in that captivity and what the enemy did to him,nk we have very specific knowledge of that. our interrogators are experts at getting information out. and i think we know clearly what his behavior was and what the enemy did to him. if that should be a mitigation, then that will take place. and that will impact on time served in jail. >> uh-huh. >> that will be where the negotiation will take place based on his captivity. but believe me, there is not a soldier sailor or airmen or marine out there who's listening to me that would want anything less than dishonorable discharge for this kind of behavior on the battlefield. that is bona fide desertion in the face of the enemy. and then walking toward that enemy knowing what the results of that would be. that he is being held accountable for that as he should be. >> general jack keane, thank you, sir. >> okay. good talking to you, megyn. >> well the "new york times" came under fire this week for an article that seemed to suggest sergeant bergdahl should get an honorable discharge. then the

jose if guillermo and jamie are accused of holding the woman captive for weeks. victim told police she escaped from santa rosa compound where rae pete he he hadly raped and held captive he hadly raped and held captive. >> this family is suing ucsf children hospital in oakland and the doctor who treated her more than a year ago. that's when then 13-year-old girl pronounced brain dead after suffering severe complication from surgery to treat sleep apnea a.lawsuit seek unspecified daniels specifically naming dr. specifically naming dr. frederick rosen for lagging when he showed signs of consist stress following the operation. >> she had a contract tid artery in the throat and on high alert for post operative complication. >> started bleeding in the throat after surgery went in cardiac arrest and pronounced brain dead. her parents refused to take her off life support and moved her to new jersey facility. there was a statement released saying the heart go out to the family but they can not comment on pending litigation. >> prominent venture capitalist faces former mye

outside captive tigers are kept in cramped cages. the tiger farm here has plans to breed between 500 and 1,000. >> now captive bread tigers are legal if licensed. it's the export of their products that is illegal. either way the head keeper here said that licenses and permissions are often ignored. >> over here at the laos government does not manage the tigerrers regardless of how you breed and how you kill. they don't care. >> is it easy to secure permissions here? >> no need for permission. >> no need. if you want to kill, you just kill it. if you want to catch you catch. there is no need for permission. this investigator said that it was frozen tiger meet available to eat. here asystem bibled in a vat a pieced together skull and skeleton of a cat. tiger bone wine can sell for $300 a bottle. they tell the investigator it's very easy this business. it's a road to wealth. the resort is in laos, but it runs on beijing time and the chinese currency is the main currency here. >> it falls under laos investigation. so both governments of

in court papers he indicated during his five years in captivity he was held in nearly total isolationbeaten chained, threatened with execution and maiming, and some in the military believe that was probably punishment enough for any crimes he committed. >> thank you. >>> we go now to retired air force colonel joining us in washington. how serious is this charge desertion given the fact that there are different levels of desertion charges? >> it's probably the most serious charge that you can expect somebody to receive in today's military environment so to put it bluntly, he is in some serious trouble at this point. >> >>> what are the implications here, do you expect bergdahl to end up serving jail time. >> there are going to be some instances where they may look at this as a time served kind of situation because of the number of years he spent in captivity. however, i do think it is at least a possibility he may serve a couple of years in jail just because of the seriousness of the charges. >> based on your experience how often does the military accuse someone of desertion? >> it is

you might remember he abandoned his post in afghanistan and then was held captive by the taliban for five years. >> now, bergdahl is being charged with desertion. here is jim miklaszewski. >> after five years in captivity, sergeant bowe bergdahl's future is again in future. he's dangercharged with desertion for leaving his post in afghanistan, a second charge of endangering his shoelgers could lead to life imprisonment. >> i'm elated actually. i wasn't sure we would get to this point. >> her son was in bergdahl's unit later killed in search operations. she believes bergdahl's actions contributed to her son's death. >> i don't think he should have anything less than life in federal prison. >> fellow soldier josh said there was no doubt bergdahl had deserted. >> he left his weapon behind. clear that he was gone and he wasn't coming back. >> bergdahl was held captive for five years, appearing under duress in a series of hostage videos. american soldier and propaganda tools for the taliban. >> this war isn't worth the waste of human life. >> on his release, picked up a firestorm in a pri

one of the significant ones came toward the end of the first year of his captivity.and only putrid water to drink, my body failed on top of a short mountain close to evening and some moments after, came i was found by a large taliban searching group. after, he was tortured and beaten once again. erin? >> now, in addition to desertion, eddy he's facing other charges as well. so what are they? could he face the death penalty? desertion, that is desertion of your nation. there is nothing greater. >> reporter: right. and that's, so there's the desertion charge and second is misbehavior before the enemy. that's actually the more serious charge which could come with a possible more severe sentence of life in prison. one of the letters in the statement released by beau bergdahl's attorney outlines in great detail why the case they will make this is undue punishment for beau bergdahl, who spent already five years in captivivity and undergoing great deal of physical and psychological therapy. of course as you've heard, we documented over the last few months many of the soldie

describe what he talks about in the letter about his captivity. >> well anderson it's the first timewe've heard it in his own words. graphic physical details being beaten with a cord he tried to escape several times, he says but he was caught. he had no food and no water. his body gave out. he talks about being very very ill. let me just read you one thing that he says in this long letter of details. he says "i was kept in constant isolation for the entire five years with little to no understanding of time. told i was going to be executed. told i would have my ears and my nose cut off." very graphic details of what this man went through. but the military is making the point, his lawyer says one thing, the military will tell you he still will have to be held accountable for these charges. he left his post in a combat zone. that is not acceptable in the u.s. military obviously. his lawyer is going to try and make the case that there's been so much publicity about this that bergdahl may not be able to get a fair hearing on it and he's not someone who committed the act of desertion. app

video shows a young boy shooting a palestinian captive accused of being a spy. iran's supreme leaders slam family planning as western live sometimes and calls for the population to be doubled. >> no end to nut rage a gaoled south korean airline director is being sued by the attendant who served her. >>> no more bombs for a month. the columbian government is to suspend strikes against f.a.r.c. rebels to support peace talks, and they say the halt could be extended if the marxist group respects the ceasefire. >> reporter: for the first time since the columbian peace talks got underway in late 2012 the president agreed to a reduction in the military operations against the f.a.r.c. rebels. >> to help de-escalate the conflict, i an ordered the defense ministry and the leaders of the armed forces it seek bombardment for a month. a surprise move for a president who had been steadfast in saying the war had continued. tangible results seemed to have convince them to change their mind. -- and december an end put to the towns and infrastructure. now comes this limited reduc

amy: were saying time served meaning in taliban captivity? >> yeah.e misbehavior before the enemy can be interbedded pretty broadly. they can be something as small as running away for the enemy but i think the reason they brought that charge was because of the accusations that six soldiers had died searching for him. which i think is totally unfair -- and unfair claim made by some of the folks who were in his unit. amy: and why do you think that is unfair? >> no soldiers in his unit died in the few months immediately after he went missing, which is when they are going on missions specifically to look for him. the six soldiers who died, died in august and september almost three months after he and gone missing. the claims are things like, they would go on routine security patrol and during that patrol, they would also happen to ask people about bergdahl every once in a while to stop but then someone would step on an ied. but it wasn't a mission specifically to look for bergdahl. the thing is, if they had not been looking for bowe bergdahl they would ha

. >> army announced sergeant bowe bergdahl will be charged with desertion he was released from captive tie for a prisoner swap of 5 al qaeda militants who were held at guantanamo bay. >> as long as i am out of here before the diaper changing contest, i will be happy. kennedy: you don't want to be here. >> no. kennedy: you don't want to make it a threefer ? >> no. kennedy: arm said they were charging him with desertion. >> this is a good news story for administration. initially the swap for about one day. then it quickly unraveled. it seemed this is where we'll end up, here we are. kennedy: do you remember what wt got off front page, i do it was the v.a. scandal, they were trying to dislodge with the convenient timing of bergdahl swap, but then once people were over that, he was alive and well they realized he was a trader. >> i thought something was fishing his dad at press conference with the zz top beard, you can make a case you want him back regardless, but the price is high, 5 top taliban byes for a deserter. tell us, this is a hellish choice, there are no good options, they go out

. >> he was a captive audience. where was he going to go? coach? now, her first role on broadway starring as the wicked ? >> this is the first character i have ever played that really is kind of a mean character. i am usually like the hooker with the heart of gold. >> i spoke to her right before she went on stage in new york. >> you said that your life has been about turning negatives into positives. and you survived what had to have been one of the worst experiences that any woman could go through. you told the story about you and your best friend being in your apartment, two brothers, breaking into your apartment. they raped both of you, and your husband at the time, peter, witnessed this. and those two men are in prison now. what you said in an interview to larry king was, with the rape, i mean i became a deeper, more compassionate person. i became a better actor. how so? >> well, you know, i am fortunate i am a creative person so i can take my pain and funnel those feelings into my work. and something really horrific like that happens to you, y

>> certainly not in the situation that austin's in, that metaphorically that our whole family is captive, and our lives are just ended. we travel to the region a couple of times. we have developed a lot of friendships and contacts, and we have also gotten a sense of exactly what - what it's like there, because of this conflict. and, you know, it's humbling to us to see the millions of refugees, you know, yes, our whole family is also being held hostage, but there are untold families that are and have experienced things far, far worse. so we are cognisant of that, you know, we want all can't ifs released -- can't ifs released, stop. >> i want to go something you said a moment ago, that you are getting information from credible sources that austin is alive. can you tell me about the sources. are they in the syrian government. >> no. >> you are not able to say? to. >> all we say is there were different kind of, you know, source, people that we have been able to connect with. and people would, you know, have no reason to lie to u as far as we can tell, and again, they believe austin is alive