for "nig >>> henry buickma owns shares of kraft and talking to us more about the deal and other companies he thinks could potentially pair up. he's president and codirector of giasuta investment advisors. thank you for being here. >> thank you very much for having me. >> what do you think about this deal? do you see the synergies in this combination, the two companies do?synergies are somewhat modest. they promise $4.15 billion of waves by 2017 but i think that the synergies could be much higher. if we go back and look at the heinz deal it was a little over a billion dollars of expense saves. so yes i think that those are very achievable what they've laid out so far. >> you had a nice day today didn't you, henry? >> yes. in a sloppy market glad to own kraft. >> okay. let's talk about what you think they have to do jointly to get their businesses growing. that's been sort of the challenge for these packaged foods companies, as food tastes change. >> well that's exactly the long-term question that, you know 3g brings a excellent play book. you know the zero based budgeting on how to cut cos