and i went wild eugene o'neil -- and i was really giving it the old hgung ho. it wasn't that good. it was over and the audience got cheery about it. a lot of commitment and energy. he said, here's what i would like you to do. immediately, this was the genius with him. i want you to do hamlet as hickey from the iceman cometh and hickey as hamlet. i immediately went into it. i did not cause. -- i did not pause. charlie: the character of hamlet and the text of hickey. and hickey as the presence he had. pacino: i learned more that day than i had in my entire life. charlie: the first part of the book is "he lost his magic or co do you fear." do you fear that? pacino: oh my. as you get older too, the stamina. this character does theater. a performance is a week, -- eight performances a week. they don't even know what character they are playing. we do one a day. the exhaustion and the tools you have as an actor. it your own energy and your own appetite. i don't think you do kingly or -- thing wking lear if you don't have an appetite. you can't walk through it. maybe if you do a movie of i