our reporting from our colleague jennifer epstein was they think her saying it's up to the state department and cannot address it, i think she must -- >> she expects those e-mails to be released. she expects every last one of those -- >> but, donna, what else did she do -- >> look, her personal -- what she needs to do -- >> we don't know. >> let donna. >> she must -- >> you say speak publicly. what should she do? >> first of all, she should start talking about the economy and start talking about, you know, all of the important issues facing the country. she needs to get out here and run a campaign if she's going to run, and she should not worry about what the 300 e-mails that the house benghazi committee is looking at. look, she is a strong candidate. and let me just tell you, there's nobody in the democratic party i just talked to and we just had a big democratic meet g meeting and i heard from governors and others, nobody is drinking pepto-bismol right now. people feel pretty confident that if she decides to run, she's going to be a strong contender and these e-mails aside, she has an ans