to discuss the disparities, we're joined by: justin hansford, a professor at st louis university school of law. and paul butler, a professor at the georgetown university law center. paul butler, is this what we mean when we talk about racial profiling? >> indeed it is. what the department has found is that the ferguson police treat african-americans differently at every level. they're arrested more. they get more tickets. they even are bitten by dogs more. one of the most revealing statistics is that of the 15 times ferguson police dogs have bitten people, they've all been african americans. why are they doing this? we know now arrests of african americans basically creating this slush fund. so there are all these court fees, penalties fines. 20% of the revenue of ferguson comes from these selective arrests of african americans, more than any other revenue other than sales tax. >> ifill: justin hansford, you've been following this very closely in st. louis. do these findings surprise you? is this something you think the federal government is in a position to intervene to prevent? >> no,