> and joining me now to discuss what's happening on the streets and how best to respond are marian castelluccio dominican sister of adrian michigan and mentality health director of catholic charities of the east bay. olis simmons, ceo of youth uprising in oakland. and ryan smith, executive director of the education trust west. they're an advocacy group. welcome to all of you. so glad you're all here. >> thank you. >> we just heard from these incredibly articulate, smart, thoughtful people. they talked about guns and jobs and race and police. what stood out for you? what really jumped out as something that struck you? >> you know, the thing that jumped out is the contradiction in these young people. they are extraordinary. but they're also ordinary. i mean this is the typical young person in oakland. and it's extraordinary because people have a very different impression of our young people. and i think anybody who had a lower expectation shame on you. i think these young people are very much typical. >> it's interesting the young man who said, you know, i'd celebrate if i get to 22. >> michael.