let's bring in cnn military analyst mark hertling and former fbi assistance director, tom fuentes. do you think isis is going to respond to boko haram's pledge? we will start with you, general. >> well, joe, it's going to be an interesting dynamic, but i wouldn't lend the intelligence community so far has not lent a whole lot of credence to this announcement by boko haram. they are in the scourge of west africa and entered into parts of chad but they were not accepted by al qaeda. this is an organization that has been despicable in some of its deeds and connects to isis but doesn't seem to have the same legitimacy as a worldwide organization as isis has right now. this is an opportunity for them to gain legitimacy for isis to gain legitimacy as well in terms of a growing organization, but i don't think the announcement is equal to command and control or connection. >> tom, what do you think about this? is this more of an operational alliance or is it primarily for propaganda purposes? >> i agree with the general, it's completely propaganda. it's not a true alliance because i don't

we have with us cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hertling.tart with the saudis who are approaching the border. a list of countries on the screen just a moment ago. why is this coalescing so quickly now when many of these countries stayed out of conflicts in other countries in the neighborhood and stayed out of this one for sometime? >> victor, they understand the threat that is yemen falling into a failed state status. and this has been a civil war that has been going on for quite sometime. there have been ebbs and flows within the country of yemen. it's been a dangerous situation. transfers of power have been tenuous. but going to becky's report, whereas there will certainly be the threat of the use of force and there are some indications that saudis are moving elements toward their border, my belief is that those are somewhat overblown and i think the saudi arabian national guard which is a very capable force, is more than likely going to defensive positions along the border with potential for limited incursions into northwest yemen, just t

we have retired lieutenant general mark hertling with us. what's your level of confidence sur vailing these terrorists and suspects that tunisia will be able to capture this third suspect the president has referred to? >> it's a law enforcement issue, victor, and it's a possibility. the issue that they're claiming that they can monitor over 5,000 potential jihadis, that's a boast and i'm not sure they can do that. but as they've investigated this incident, you have the arrest of over 20 people, mostly relatives by the tunisian government and security forces, they certainly are going to get more leads where they can go after the remaining individual that was part of this attack. and i'm sure there were probably others that were part of this attack as well. >> now on to yemen, the u.n. security council will be meeting to discuss what happened in yemen. what do you expect the international security will be able to do about this chaos in yemen? >> yemen, victor, is a cauldron right now. it is going to be one of the biggest questions we have beca

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with us is military analyst retired general mark hertling of course. thank you for being here.like anything is being done and that's why you want to go. do you see this as, i was reading in "the new york times" a story about another veteran, 29-year-old patrick maxwell an iraq war vet in texas and said he saw what he is seeing on the news as a second chance to go and make things right. is that your motivation as well? >> i would say there were three motivations for me founding this organization. the firstinging the outrage of the astrosties committed by isis. the second being slow and very weak response by our current administration in response to these atrocities going on. and then the third was reading about these various veterans going over to help. but i want to clarify one point real quick. we're not recruiting an army to go fight isis. we are networking and raising funds to deploy in a defensively in support of locals in iraq and syria against isis. >> sean, thank you nor the clairificatio clarification. i wanted to ask you, general hertling, you go to fight in a war, the

and also with us general mark hertling a cnn military analyst and the former commanding general for theh army. a bit of a game-changer when you think the conversation going on in the white house between the two presidents. david, let's unpack it a little bit. because we know the president sort of saying isis is now targeting us. maybe we need to reconsider the timeline to withdraw u.s. troops. let's look at that piece. should the u.s. reconsider the proposal about troop withdrawal? >> we should applaud the president for making this decision. the president should have a lot of flexibility in terms of how many troops he's going to keep in afghanistan. that's very important because when you set deadlines years in advance, you don't know what the situation is going to be like on the ground. moreover it's important not to telegraph to our enemies like the taliban when we're going to leave. the taliban has been in afghanistan for 25 years, they're there for the long run. they will lie in wait until we leave. the new added threat of perhaps isis cooperating with the taliban makes it even more

cnn correspondent ed in dallas who has covered this from the beginning and lieutenant general mark hertlingis position right? >> well he doesn't actually say very much about why and what happened in terms of the reasons he left his post that night in eastern afghanistan back in july 2009. what his lawyer is basically saying is we will learn more about all of that. his lawyer right in the front part of the document the initial letter to the army saying that they need to see more specific documentation about the evidence that they haven't been given, the information that they would like to have as this now moves forward. we will see if they get it. the lawyer also making the point -- i think it's really interesting this early on that there has been so much publicity about this case. it may not be possible in his view for bowe bergdahl to get a fair hearing in front of the u.s. military. in fact he tells us -- i don't know that we heard this before. bergdahl is serving in san antonio, texas, on an army base. he is accompanied by two enlisted soldiers not because he's a flight risk but because

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let's dig deeper with peter bergen our military analyst, general mark hertling.und in yemen. >> if this claim of responsibility is true. generally speaking when isis claimed responsibility for something, it has turned out to be an accurate claim. it's not just yemen. we have seen tunisia, egypt, libya. in fact obviously, you have iraq and syria. many countries in the middle east. >> the u.s. is evacuated the embassy in yemen. they are out of there. the u.s. military is basically out of there. there's a little war going on now between the iranian shiite houthi rebels who have taken over and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula there in yemen. that's what's going on? >> right. then you have the al qaeda and isis are also in competition. they are opposed to the houthis. it's a complex situation. >> sounds like syria. how did this unravel so quickly? the situation in yemen. less than a year ago, president obama was suggesting that the counterterrorism strategy in yemen was a model, was working. >> you saw the uninsurgency grow through the houthis. that has allowed probl

. >>> let's bring in lieutenant general mark hertling, former commanding general in europe, general,we said claiming responsibility for two terror attacks in two countries in less than a week. particularly in yemen where we know al qaeda has always been the more forceful group there. if isis is indeed responsible, what does that say to you about their strength and how they are moving? >> it certainly has been a troubling week, christi. i say first, if we can address concerned me the most because - tunisia is a very beautiful country, for nen an who has been there, it has a constitutional republic, it has a code of personal law which gives women so many rights and seems to be the model for emerging countries in north africa. to have this attack shows the terrorists are beginning to think almost in group crowd psychology that they can attack. that's troubling. when you're looking at yemen it's a completely different story. that is a failing and near failed state after so much hope that it could become a much better organization, a much better nation. and now you not only have the al qa

let's go to fill lid mudd and cnn analyst general mark hertling. yemen is not an old place. 1990 this place was formed 26 million people. important to the u.s. because of its location. it had been such an allie, president obama six months ago saying this place is a success, example in the war against terrorism. let's look at it first from a military standpoint general, what has happened there? the government has gone now it seems like it's a race to see who can make eight home base for terror first. >> chris, it's an easy thing to describe. houthi insurgency has overtaken the government which represented the trievenlt have you houthi s fighting not only the tribe but aid in the peninsula, a critically important terrorist group. add that that isis claims they're in the territory. so you literally have a cauldron of interjihadi fighting. the special operations forces were pulled out of there late last week because, truthfully we don't have any intelligence to give them. it wasn't the fact that they weren't generating intelligence but when you take th

bobby goech and general mark hertling former commander general of the u.s. 7th army and command anywhereountry and these are the different parts. bobby, take me through the complexities here. >> what you have inside going on inside yemen is a civil war and ordinarily the rest of the world wouldn't care it's a civil war taking place, there are grievances the shiite community has grievances against the majority. we shouldn't care. except for two things one is that there's a very large al qaeda presence as you see there. that orange belt. and has been for a while. this is the most dangerous al qaeda franchise. and all the other arab countries worry because there's an iranian presence. the iranians are supporting with men, materiel money, the houthis. 0 so these outsiders, if you like are bringing this conflict into a kind of geopolitical stage. what happened overnight was not just saudi arabia ten countries participated in this campaign entirely from the air. with a little naval exercise as well. the united states it would appear is offering support and intelligence. so a lot of people are