okay looks like governor christie is in fair lawn, thankfuly, ronica knew that, she is there with him. >> governor christie just finished his remarks at town hall he and open his remarks he touted the success of the budget budget. >> we're saving -- in dischristianaryindiscretionary spending. >> and just because governor christie touts balancing the budget that does not mean that new jersey is not in debt, i asked does it mean that governor christie is lying? >> there are three times of lies lies, and lies and statistics he has to do it under the constitution. that requirement they play games with the numbers. >> that what governor christie is doing is what we have seen many past governors do, robbing peter po to pay paul. bill: is anyone talking about solutions. >> i was surprised by our conversation and acknowledgeing this goes on through many administrations, and saying that the governor is note lying about the circumstances -- not lying about the circumstances pointing out some things that i think a lot of people are not aware of, when you hear the sound bites you might not know t