join me now, mike pesca and annie lowry. mike, does justice scalia have a point?e provision of these drugs besides the point or exactly the point? >> sort of in between. if you think something is wrong, like the death penalty is by any means, try to get it abolished. it's not a terrible point that i won't get in too much depth and you probably know this but the only reason they do a three drug cocktail animals are killed with a two drug cocktail but there's a paralyzing agent. without that the bodies thrashed around. some in executions say it's a safety thing. you don't want when they inject but probably doesn't disturb witnesses. there are so many complications with this that the opponents of the death penalty just want the whole thing banned based on the procedure. is that the way we're going to get the death penalty banned. any nation that banned the death penalty because there's not an efficient way to kill people? probably not. >> and now we're talking about going back to firing squads and gas chambers because in many ways annie lowry, those are maybe more hu