. >> well, we had a great editor, ben bradley. who -- >> but in terms of boots on the ground, it was your boots and carl's boots. >> yeah, but you know, the guy at the top, bradley and the owner, katherine graham, really had a sense of this is the business we're in, i think vietnam set the stage for doubt about government and they turned us loose and if they had not published those story, you know, carl and i could have written letters to our mothers -- [laughter] >> right. >> would not have resonated and so the risk factor for them and the peril for them was great. for us, we were kids and, you know, if it didn't turn out, i could have done something like gone to law school. >> right, right. >> so, you know, which is what i -- [speaking simultaneously] >> but you're telling me two young reporters at the washington post today came upon a story with the same level of importance, what watergate became. the editor of the paper and jeff bezos would not 100% back and provide greater resourcesness i think they would back it and -- if yo