c.f. nombings paris and said positive trends are re-emerging across europe. >> if we stay in europe and we'rethere were some shackles on growth. steps have been taken to remove gradually these shackles. it seems these green shoots are showing some glimmers of hope that they will blossom. for the rest i think we'll have to see how the equilibrium unfolds going forward. jonathan: i'm pleased to say manus cranny joins us now with more on b.n.p. paribas and r.b.s. which posted a greater loss than expected. manus cranny, give me the highlights from b.n.p. first. manus: thank goodness we have an investment bank. equity markets doing well jon. that contributed wholeheartedly to the number. the lang garage the c.e.o. talking about early recovery -- language from the c.e.o. talking about early recovery. consumer banking in france under a little bit of pressure. jonathan: manus cranny r.b.s., you think they are going to improve and then they don't. loss is bigger than expected. more bad news. when are we going to see the turnaround? what was the bad news this morning? manus: take away all the noise. th