the co-founder of jackson hewitt, a company for which he no longer works but still bears his name ishe founder now and ceo of liberty tax service based in virginia beach, virginia. the third largest tax prep in the country, liberty has 43 locations and growing. he talks about making your customers happy, principles and this getting out of the box in this learning from the pros. >> making customers happy. you never meet a customer's expectations. you almost never do. you either exceed it or fail to meet it. and our goal as ceos is to have a higher and higher percentage of exceeding customer's expectations. caution is a thing of the past. you have to go for it. we do one thing almost no one does. we're one of the few national companies that calls every customer two days after they've been in and asked how we did for them and how we can improve. they like being called. they like being asked. we have a higher retention when we call our customers and ask them how we did. flexibility is key then because you have so many different kinds of customers. so you've got to do things different. if