john angelos today talked to me about what he meant in tinner harbor. >> we're playing a game. i think it's the lowest attendance in the history of baseball was in the 1880s. >> 1828. a game with six people. >> so you know it. there you go. and we're going to beat that record i think. >> the best you can make of a strange situation. >> yeah. i think the city officials and the state of maryland and major league baseball and along with the orioles attempted to come up with a good solution and there really wasn't any ideal solution so we're doing the best we can in light of the larger circumstances out in the community. >> so saturday, you know they had this peaceful march, 4,000 or 5,000 people largely without incident until the very end. there were some sort of conflict around folks when they came down to camden yard for the baseball game. some concern about that. that picture on the cover of the pap we are the young guy beating up the car smashing windows. you read this saying i'm upset about the car but really i'm upset about the conditions that have produced the kind of unres

militarized and aggressive surveillance state jericho so wrote baltimore orioles chief operating officer john angelos, son of owner peter angelos. reverend jackson? >> you can't get any better than that. yet this commendation of -- you have this commendation of drugs in, jobs out alienation from those who live in a surplus and those who live in the deficit. there are some factors we must not ignore -- we regret, the street violence last night because one reason is not redemptive. two, it diverts attention from the agenda put on that letter, which we will be discussing. but there's a cause effect relationship. we should do well not to panic in the face of last night. since this is so close to washington my -- why not make this a model for urban reconstruction? >> let me add to what reverend jackson said. back in the 1930's, my grandfather came from north carolina to baltimore with very little education and got a good paying job. like the grandparents of many of those young people out there yesterday, those jobs are dried-up. this is a generation where there are too many people seeking to few jobs in b

charles: juan, john angelo's son is an executive with the team, he had no problems with the protestersen violent but we should point ought, peter angelo is a famous trial lawyer who made a lot of his money from suing large corporations, a big bear market of unions -- a big backer of unions, again, between john angelos what mayor said, and maybe to a lesser degree what president obama has been saying, some of the kids may be saying you know what ray lewis, other people are saying that i have a right to throw a brick, and burning down a cvs is just a building, but what happened to my life and future is less certain. >> i don't know that anyone is saying that. i think what we have, a lot of these kids are unruley, unschooled, literally and -- >> who is going to school them? >> that is what i'm saying, we have an absence of any kind of role model, i think -- >> who fills void. >> this is interesting, question will be, for people on the left, left police, you don't want police to be person doing schooling that leads to court and jail. you need more social workers, mental health workers and

john angelos the team's executive vice president has weighed in on the unrest on his business and on his hometown. he joins me now from outside baltimore's city hall. mr. angelos, there were front-page pictures coast to coast today of an empty park yesterday in baltimore. was it a good idea? >> gwen, thanks. it's great to be here under these difficult circumstances. it was an idea that was the best in a difficult situation. the authorities the give's office, the state of maryland the city of baltimore in protecting public safety felt that in order to deploy their resources throughout the city and protect everyone in the city, it made the most sense to not have the game open to the public. >> ifill: what kind of business hit did you take, and more importantly, did all the other businesses around the park take in. >> well, there is no question that all the businesses in baltimore are positively impacted when there are major events like an orioles' game or a ravens' game and other such entertainment events. when those things don't happen people plan on them and they lose income. that's

john angelos said essentially it pales in comparison, a baseball game compared to the hurt and the pain that people are feeling the need to express themselves. this is right thing to do. >> off of baseball and back to what we need to be talking about. i was talking to a 24-year-old. we were walking down north avenue earlier today in west baltimore. he was sort of explaining his own personal story to me and why so many young people run away from police and the issues they have with how they feel like their encounters with police have gone. i think the youth is so much part of this story. how should the city be reaching out to the youth? what would your message be? >> the city has to have a conversation with communities. that's got to occur. people want to express themselves. and we've got to be able to say we understand it they're not just making this up. i grew up here in west baltimore in the same neighborhood. i was arrested 13 times by the age of 19 for just standing out on the corner or not moving fast enough. >> 13 times? >> 13 times. so that's an arrest record. can you imagine wha

john angelos talking about the decision to cancel games trying to give people a little bit of perspectivethe situation talking about people who don't have jobs they're losing their civil and legal rights and making the inconvenience at a ballgame irrelevant in light of the needless suffering. the government is inflicting upon ordinary americans. and that was just one part of the tweet. he sent out a lengthy series of tweets talking about this and real quick, i want to show you getting a lot of reaction to that. people wondering about this game saying it speaks volumes and saying it will cripple the city not playing this game tomorrow. a lot of people weighing in on this orioles decision. back to you guys. leon: all right. thank you, joce. lots of folks here are talking about how important it is to hold the public officials accountable. coming up here in the next hour, we'll be hearing we expect any moment now from governor larry hogan and hear what he has to say, particularly answers for the late response from the officials getting safety to the streets of the city of baltimore. alison an

angelo and john fueling sang appreciate your time on this. that's "the ed show."with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. we have a big show tonight, including what could be president obama's most powerful emotional statement yet onled delay in the loretta lynch nomination. >> it's gone too far, enough. enough. call loretta lynch for a vote. these embarrassing. a process like this. >> we'll have that full statement and what it means for the confirmation fight later in the show. but we start with developing news about that oklahoma reserve deputy who says he mistook his gun fo

angelo and john fueling sang appreciate your time on this. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. we have a big show tonight, including what could be president obama's most powerful emotional statement yet onled delay in the loretta lynch nomination. >> it's gone too far, enough. enough. call loretta lynch for a vote. these embarrassing. a process like this. >> we'll have that full statement and what it means for the confirmation fight later in the show. but we start with developing news about that oklahoma reserve deputy who says he mistook his gun for his taser during a deadly shooting. in his first public comments since the death of eric harris robert bates spoke to nbc news' matt lauer and addressed the central questions about how this happened. >> would you stand up for me for one second and show me where on your body when you are in your uniform you keep your taser and where you keep your weapon your revolver. can you stand up and show me. >> sur