billions of dollars in the years from brezinski and carter to the reagan administration to support the mujahedinnd to supply them with weapons and a. following to the different rebel groups that was the soviets leave a kind of afghanistan is in ruins all these refugees, refugees wrecked towns from the soviet actions as well as from the fighting. and so it is kind of this by water now. and so that is an example. i think they mishandled. they later -- i thought this was too political. he is criticized for his caution and to guarded, sees a downside. there was something to this. something to the pitfalls and what might happen but he is also very nuanced and analytic and smart, not -- but most people want something a little more you know, quicker and uplifting, something, something shorter. they want a song to sing, as it were. he and baker and bush were not very good at this. it this. it was nothing like tear down this wall or axis of evil or nice messages these messages, but some easy way to get a handle on this world that was happening. i. i spend a good bit of time talking about this. the cold w