of looking at these famous names that have come from kansas, i mean from vice president charles curtis to bob dole, kansas has been really involved in national politics. are there any other kansas politicians who have influenced you or your political ideals? governor brownback: a lot have. frank carlson is a name that has not, much, u.s. senator, congressman from kansas. he was eisenhower's guy in the senate. he was close to eisenhower. they were from, oh, about 40 miles apart from each other's where they live. eisenhower out of abilene, carlson from concordia, kansas. he had a lot of depth and character, and he did things for love of country. bob dole has been a big influence, is a close friend. he still regularly calls, you know, every couple of weeks, and just chats, once to know what is going on. -- wants to know what is going on. and bob is 91, 92 now. but great mind. helped me in my reelect a lot. and i think just the nature of eisenhower, who represents that quintessential kansas nature, is a guy that when faced with a big task, he does not care who gets the credit because we are all going