. >> well, i share in commissioner hayons decision we're going a little bit in circle i feel like here we are and this is where i say we could do better with engaging with our partners whether the referral process where the particular complaints come before us from the sunshine task force or bystander down or standing aside and kind of passively watching something heap and could have played a better role or monitored it so whatever developments that happen or had troofrpd would be brought back to the commission for deliberations it is frustrating but a bidding bit of a what end to me it feels like a forfeiture direction that has a statute of limitations issue potentially it feels like this was a possible way in which we could august violations fine to the $10,000 i want to as a commission to be clear where we're headed and ultimately trying to achieve we are doing the right thing by having this discussion every time we become more clearer but i want to be as clear as we can to what at the end the component we can do our absolutely best to achieve but outcome ifeven if we end up being t

towards greater transcripts this was something the commission took up in july of 2013 where commissioner hayon was the commissioner president but the civil grand jury endorsed this step in june of 2014 i was a member of that jury and when the commissioner heard the civil grand jury report they wanted to take into account it but foster down the calendar of things you have on our plate we're urging it be moved you have indian from talking with the city attorney's office to have until july 30th 3 full commission meetings to thrush out the problems that meetings needs to be addressed in terms of the legal language we implemented a poll inch provided to the commissioners and the world and the purpose of the poll was the commission raised the question of whether or not there's a public sentiment for action on varies or various items there's an action to disclose the influence of money on city hall and there's at this point, a approval rating if the public the ethics commission work on that as you recall as voters get to the congress that's not a high rating so thank you. >> i note that friends of et