. >> aon hewitt you have before you the presentation entitled unitedhealthcare

prescription drug plan national ppo fully-insured premiums and contributions for 2016 plan year aon hewitt. >> aon hewitt you have before you the presentation entitled unitedhealthcare medicare advantage prescription drug plan national ppo -- >> would you please pause we have voted to offer this option we're not going to have a discussion whether we're having this option offered today so please don't go there we're talking about the how much it's going to cost at this point that's what we're voting on. all right? thank you. >> okay. so on page four of the presentation is the read card just to give you an idea what it costs it's 30512 for a fully insured national ppo discussed in the prior three meetings it's slightly more expensive that our existing city plan be knowledgeable the city plan is afforded a high stabilization credit if you look at it apples to apples comparison it would be slightly more expensive for credit. at the bottom for clarification we put the rates are for the existing city plan this program has never been part of our offering and to give you an an idea of what the cit

>> okay aon hewitt actuary asc excuse me i have a bit of a voice issue this presentation is blue shield fully ensured renewal for medicare retirees i will turn you to page three executive summary it starts on the second bullet point by saying the present gdp 65 plus combine rate it's two programs combined. is 37856. they have now quoted that rate for an e-only to be 36842 then we have another card which is the national ppo which will be the second set of rate cards their rate is 36512. with that being stated i ask you to turn to page four. page four is the present final rate offer by blue shield for the existing status quo program discussed in the prior presentation. so if you look at it the rates are always inclusive of the vision rate in the stability fee these are the numbers on page four if you look at the bottom it shows you the number has gone down slightly from 2015 -- excuse me that being said here are the numbers with the footnotes you go to page five it giveses you standard comparison for the disht -- differentials for the employer, and employee this is the existing plans with

and neill our great act -- >> as a matter of record for aon hewitt as your acutary this is just for public recard when we gained the $5.4 million the actives it's all the employees benefits the employ yes and employers benefit you correctly spoke to and asked the question to me it's $5.4 million for the people who are early retirees the employer does gain money of your number it's $1.2 million in the public document. thank for allowing us to go on public record to do that i don't want to belabor that. thank you very much. >> thank you. all right. anything catherine? >> no thank you. >> is there public comment on the president or the director's report? >> thank you for recognizing i was ready for public comment claire vanski representing rccf a number of members were concerned they could not attend today's meeting at the correct center. to my delivery to the groups in the may meeting i want to incorporate i want to thank a couple of you i take that information and i share it with retirees so i referred them to a website and also said that they will probably hear more about this during open

of funding blue shield retiree plans and side by side rate cards blue shield of california and aon hewitt. >> all right. i know that there are representatives from blue shield here in the audience i would like to have all of the members of the blue shield team that are here today to please stand. there are enough of them i don't think anybody could be at their offices at work. [laughter] but we're delighted you all came out ready to respond to our questions we appreciate your you effort in providing an alternative proposal to your submission to this board again it reinforces the point that competition is a powerful weapon in the market please thank you for coming introduce yourself >> i'm paul brown area vice president for account management at blue shield and you all have the presentation material. i don't know if it's going to be shared with the audience but i will go through the presentation and note the page i'm on i will start with the introduction page as you noticed i brought a small army i won't introduce everybody else they are my back today we want to peak sure we bring all of t

has happened we're not expecting that return of state of affairs >> yeah i speak frequently with aon hewitt we understand the ongoing rates and the liability we understand that is critically important >> thank you. >> one more thing i wanted to mention. with the same situation i brought up with unitedhealthcare. to do diligence we should have an rfp to see what else is really out there of course then your rates would really come down that is my thought again. >> i thought we addressed last meeting that would be activity considered in the next cycle >> yes. >> all right. are there any more questions from the board? >> thank you. >> is there any public comment? oh, yes. all right. as you approach to make public comment we ask that you identify yourself and then confine yourself to the time a lotted which is three minutes. yes? >> good afternoon my name is stephanie moman the vice president of contracting care with brown and toll physicians here in san francisco 3800 of the san francisco medicare eligible retirees are enrolled in the blue shield 65 medicare program each of these retirees has a

and neill our great act -- >> as a matter of record for aon hewitt as your acutary this is just for public recard when we gained the $5.4 million the actives it's all the employees benefits the employ yes and employers benefit you correctly spoke to and asked the question to me it's $5.4 million for the people who are early retirees the employer does gain money of your number it's $1.2 million in the public document. thank for