we heard from giorgios katrougalos saying it a good basis for talks and similar from another person.n terms of the actual proposal we think it has a firm amount in terms of raising taxes. less clear in terms of cutting spending. -- we think it is a fair amount in terms of raising taxes. then you have to may be a surcharge, a solidarity charge on individuals that make more than 30,000 euros per year. then all three bands of vat. the highest of value added tax would be at 23%. maybe something on kicking and retiring and having that delayed but that will not happen until next year. we do not know precisely what this will do to pensions. that is been a stumbling block. reports that they would cut tensions of gdp. creditors have been moving in the direction of one person sent. unclear where there will find the missing revenue. from yanis varoufakis in terms of rhetoric, we heard from yanis varoufakis yesterday and an interview and talked about the decision was up to angela merkel and the decisions up to her to make on monday. what would heard from the german foreign minister, he is speaki