mrs. sandberg said that she saw herself and missed powell.any of the behaviors raised in thattrial that happened in but withsteps, hindsight, they are real, this is from sue decker. this may not be discrimination according to the law, but small flights and have a real impact on someone. beth: there is no question, all of us women saw ourselves in this situation. we are often the minority. emily: but do you understand how a lot of these things can be small things in isolation, but altogether they are a big deal. emily: yes i understand that, we hiddensess it in bias -- bias, so it is important to be aware of those and act on them, sinking to the best out of all of your people and make decisions. that this irony is firm has had women top partners for a long time. there are other firms who have none. is there a fundamental problem in the vc industry? emily: there that john: there is. pipeline thing? john: if you want to hire out and women, you go out and find them. .e look long and hard it was a campaign. we hired mary because she is the best in

mr. paulson: i'll go with climate change. ms. sandberg: are you still walking around the office with your socks on? mr. rubin: yes. ms. sandberg: tim, you seem to have started this trend. hank, and a special sock behavior? iphone or android? mr. geithner: iphone. mr. paulson: iphone. mr. rubin: blackberry. ms. sandberg: most economically literate president. mr. rubin: i think bill clinton was massively illiterate -- massively literate. mr. paulson: george w. bush. mr. geithner: i would say it has to be obama or clinton. ms. sandberg: paper or kindle? mr. rubin: paper. mr. paulson: kendall. ms. sandberg: news online or on paper? what do you do to relax? mr. paulson: you do the same thing i do. fishing. mr. rubin: but i really do it well. mr. paulson: he may cast better but i catch more fish. mr. geithner: i do that too but i read. >> on next washington journal, virginia congressman gerald connolly is here to talk about the debate over nsa surveillance programs, the fight against isis in iraq and syria, and other foreign-policy issues in co

mr. geithner: in which direction? [laughter] [applause] ms. sandberg: i think tim just made up for his prior pessimism with humor. mr. paulson: in all seriousness -- mr. geithner: i was serious. mr. paulson: it is a huge issue. we talked with economic advisers. my first speech as treasury secretary was on the topic. i will come back to what bob said. when i looked at it -- and of course, there is big debate that comes with drivers, and globalization is a force -- but i think what is going on with technology and the digital revolution huge. i think it is the biggest economic trend in the world today, by far. i think it brings with it huge advantages for society overall. but the pace of change is so fast. as i look at industry after industry, whether it is engineering, architecture, business, you see the middle being carved out. anything that can be routinized is being routinized. it is winner take all. you have to ask yourself and say, i have a believe this is progress. i cannot turn back the clock. most of the new technologies i see are really much mor

sandberg: why? mr. rubin: there really is nobody to play the role that the united states has played for many, many decades now. i think we pair -- play fair trading rules and there is a whole host of issues, no one will play the role that the united states can play. ms. sandberg: the role of america, changing? mr. paulson: it is changing, and all of my friends appear, they -- all of my friends appear, as tim said, we are the strongest and the biggest economy in the world, and if i don't see anyone out there -- and i don't see anyone out there who can fix the problems that we can and we have to lead by example. sure, the political system makes a heart for us to do this today, but i think the thing that we need to do is to show leadership and first, we have to correct . who wants to follow -- we have to be a good example. it starts with what we do at home. secondly showing leadership abroad. take china as an example. china has many more problems. as i have said over and over again, you can make a mistake

mr. dorsey right now? i think this is what he would be telling him, we need adults in the room, you need to hire a sheryl sandbergype to come in and right the ship. and if this business model doesn't work, you need to sell it. create a destruction. it's happened all the way back since netscape. melissa: yeah. >> twitter may be better as part of something else, but this was a long time coming. everybody saw it. it was a slow burn, and it's a much-needed change. melissa: i'm sorry, i couldn't understand -- >> including fox business a while back, keeping us out of his ipo coverage. melissa: another complicating factor though, jack dorsey is currently the ceo of square, that little payment system that goes into your iphone or -- >> right. it's not a conflict. melissa: you think he can do both jobs at once? >> yeah, you know, it's like -- yes, yes. i think, and he's going to be interim. like i said, the call now should be in to jamie, jamie dimon. because i know jack dorsey and her very close. what are you recommending to jack dorsey to do to take this company forward, to get adults in the room, and what do you see as