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supporters held a rally, claiming that cut backs and the number of rental days would hurt san francisco's economy. a vote on the home and vacation rental website was put off for 30 days. >>> also in san francisco today, it became the first city to require a warning label on all sugary drink advertisements. it would read drinking beverages with added sugar contributes to obesity, diabetes and tooth decay. san francisco supervisors also approved a plan to ban all soda ads on public property and prohibited the use of public funds to buy sugary drinks for any county function. critics call the measure misguided and a spokesman for the beverage industry said it's likely soda makers will challenge the law in court. >>> he was once among the most powerful in the country. dennis has territory made his first public appearance in court. he pleaded not guilty to illegally moving large sums of cash and then lying about it to the fbi. prosecutors say millions of dollars was used as hush money to pay off a former student accusing him of sexual abuse. the alleged abuse happened while he was a wrestling coach at
supporters held a rally, claiming that cut backs and the number of rental days would hurt san francisco's economy. a vote on the home and vacation rental website was put off for 30 days. >>> also in san francisco today, it became the first city to require a warning label on all sugary drink advertisements. it would read drinking beverages with added sugar contributes to obesity, diabetes and tooth decay. san francisco supervisors also approved a plan to ban all soda ads on public...
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something that clearly hasn't happened, and 2, preserve pdr space to scrur the diversification of san franciscos economy. the bottom line is retaining pdr jobicize critical because it is the biggest sector for employment in the mission and represents the only job opportunity for so many in the community. the pdr spaceerize critical to the vibrancy of the community. mini ortest work in pdr spaces and have for decades and being displaced as a very alarming rate because of the conversion of pdr space to other uses, specifically office space. planning tells while permitted conversion of pdr are 2.2 percent city wide, the rate of loss in the mission is actually 12.3 percent. all most 6 times more. this is taking into account the permitted conversion and doesn't take into account illegal conversion we know are happening. now let's talk about the voters. the voters of the city and coupty of san francisco presented their own vision for housing in san francisco. they passed proposition k last year and my proposal is very much in line with what the voters of san francisco asked this past november. proposition can
something that clearly hasn't happened, and 2, preserve pdr space to scrur the diversification of san franciscos economy. the bottom line is retaining pdr jobicize critical because it is the biggest sector for employment in the mission and represents the only job opportunity for so many in the community. the pdr spaceerize critical to the vibrancy of the community. mini ortest work in pdr spaces and have for decades and being displaced as a very alarming rate because of the conversion of pdr...
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payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economyco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcomin on election day, when you go to vote at your local polling place in san francisco, the workers, that greet you, check the roster and give you your boll lot, might a little young like they could be in high school this is part of the poll worker program, this provides, every election, with thoun poll workers how did they become a poll workers, and what is it like being a poll worker as such a young age? let's meet some poll workers. >> hello, i have been a poll worker for about poll workers for 13 years now. >> hello this would bymy my 7th year now. >> my name is eddie i'm 20 i'm a senior i will be graduating this may. [music] >> students don't just show up on election day, they're recruited and trained by the department of election. [music] >> we visit to almost all san francisco high schools, talk to students, in government class
payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economyco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcomin on election day, when you go to vote at your local polling place in san francisco, the workers, that greet you, check the roster and give you your boll lot, might a little young like they could be in high school...
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payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economysco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom
payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economysco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom
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payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economyits not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom. >> can you please turn off our electronic devices it tends to interrupt the microphone can we please rise for the pledge of allegiance allegiance of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all mayor pro tem i'd like to call roll
payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economyits not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom. >> can you please turn off our electronic devices it tends to interrupt the microphone can we please rise for the pledge of allegiance allegiance of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god,...
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payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economy of san francisco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom call the meeting to order. roll call commissioner [inaudible] here, commissioner [inaudible] here. commissioner [inaudible] here item 2 approval of minutes for may 25, 2015, all in favor? aye. opposed? >> minutes are aprieved. >> pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. please be advised the [inaudible] use of cell phones pagers and electronic devices are prohibitsed. please be advise the chair may ask for removal of anyone responsible for cell phone [inaudible] electronic device. please be advised a member of the public has up to 3 minutes to make public comment on each item unless [inaudible] item 5 public comment and items not listed ochb agenda. any public com
payroll tax and normally adhere san franciscans so their bowing goods and services in san francisco it really helps the economy of san francisco grow so its not only a benefit to the project but to the city. the contractors center is 5 thomas melon circle in the bayview area open 8:30 to 5 welcom call the meeting to order. roll call commissioner [inaudible] here, commissioner [inaudible] here. commissioner [inaudible] here item 2 approval of minutes for may 25, 2015, all in favor? aye. opposed?...
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and gentlemen, what's important about san francisco is the talent that we need to be a world class city, not just the in california, but in the world, the global economy exist right now in classrooms across the city in san francisco. they are the boys and girls in kindergarten through classrooms that want to live in san francisco and want to raise their families in san francisco and want to be part of the infrastructure and part of the talent people in san francisco. the announcement that the mayor said today is to invest in the rainy day fund. it's critical for us because those minds are nurtured with dedicated commitment in the classroom. the rainy day fund has allowed us in the times to keep the educators and staff in schools. this is important in a plan in a fiscally responsible way when that time comes and we have methods to interact the negative effects of those down turns. i can't emphasize enough how important it is for afternoon school program and extended learning programs. we know that learning doesn't stop when learning leaves to classroom. they learn in the environment. how wonderful it is in this city there is no wait list. that every st
and gentlemen, what's important about san francisco is the talent that we need to be a world class city, not just the in california, but in the world, the global economy exist right now in classrooms across the city in san francisco. they are the boys and girls in kindergarten through classrooms that want to live in san francisco and want to raise their families in san francisco and want to be part of the infrastructure and part of the talent people in san francisco. the announcement that the...
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out the conditions we could only say those are the current conditions we can't predict economies in san francisco your we'll hear and take on our prototypes if you remember les i can't see slides here's the amount of revenue and the costs you're trying to talk about the difference it is a small percentage felt overall money that is partnering in f this transaction it is incentive and at some point you have to pick a spot there is definitely no exact answer they're definitely going to look at this. >> my advice be aggressive i think we under shot it in the eastern neighborhoods nobody saying the prongs are on the feasibility never but you did when we rezoned it we were putting fees on those projects that were making feasible whether rincon hill or other areas but recapturing the fee but you know points made recapture what we didn't capture and guj everyone but really protons of affordability and transportation and not now, when so think we can lear lien from that we've heard the stories we see all the projects going up in rincon hill that were kind of zoned and planned for they would not because t
out the conditions we could only say those are the current conditions we can't predict economies in san francisco your we'll hear and take on our prototypes if you remember les i can't see slides here's the amount of revenue and the costs you're trying to talk about the difference it is a small percentage felt overall money that is partnering in f this transaction it is incentive and at some point you have to pick a spot there is definitely no exact answer they're definitely going to look at...
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san francisco. president obama discussed expanding healthcare creating jobs and growing the economy. but the one topic that was first and foremost on the president's mind. was the charleston church masscre. president obama will spend the night in san francisco. he is scheduled to depart from s-f-o tomorrow morning at 9:40. the other big story tonight. >> reporter: we had a lot of sunshine today and will be repaid tomorrow. your saddle i read about shows you where it's can he the. for right now your fog locations and your clouds in the morning in will help fog in the morning in the coastal regions mainly in the pacific west. but overall plan the of sunshine that will last all day long. here's your seventh day forecast as i mentioned. >> pam: google's popular search engine will start censoring unauthorized nude photos. the move is meant to crack down on the malicious practice known as revenge porn. people who have nude photos posted online without their permision.can request to have links to the image blocked from appearing in search results. google says a form for the censorship reques
san francisco. president obama discussed expanding healthcare creating jobs and growing the economy. but the one topic that was first and foremost on the president's mind. was the charleston church masscre. president obama will spend the night in san francisco. he is scheduled to depart from s-f-o tomorrow morning at 9:40. the other big story tonight. >> reporter: we had a lot of sunshine today and will be repaid tomorrow. your saddle i read about shows you where it's can he the. for...
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san francisco is celebratinghe positive impact tourism has on the city's economy. d out the impressive numbers during the luncheon o the san francisco travel association. it was a record-breaking year. it generated $10.6 billion last year. mayor ed lee wants to make sure that those visitors who came in 2014 don't have to worry aut crime, so he wants to hire 400 new police officers. >> it isn't just about the number of people that we bring in to the city. it's about what they experience when they come to our city. >> the tourism industry employs 87,000 workers inan francisco. >>> here's a look now from sky 7 hd of the stage at levis stadium. that's where the surviving member of the grateful dead will reunite this weekend. the shows are sold out, but you can get tickets on stub hub for as little as $19. the santa ara event is a warmup for the farewell event in chicago. the concert will be streamed online. >>> let's check on the weather. sandhya? >> as you look at live 7 hd we have clear skies except for a patch of fog in half moon bay. severe weather expected again ac
san francisco is celebratinghe positive impact tourism has on the city's economy. d out the impressive numbers during the luncheon o the san francisco travel association. it was a record-breaking year. it generated $10.6 billion last year. mayor ed lee wants to make sure that those visitors who came in 2014 don't have to worry aut crime, so he wants to hire 400 new police officers. >> it isn't just about the number of people that we bring in to the city. it's about what they experience...
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we've a lot of work to do in san francisco and were really fortunate to have a thriving economy with unprecedented civic resource. now, in partnership with our colleagues here on the board of supervisors, and mayor lee, you're putting those resources to use it to make us safer healthier and hopefully eventually more affordable city for everyone. thank you. >> supervisor cohen >> thank you very much. of course i want to give a moment to recognize the leadership of mayor lee was done a tremendous job as the mayor listening and responding to what constituents have made a class of him. i want to appreciate kate howard and her staff who done exemplary work on helping constituents feel more engaged in the entire budget process. i went recognize marked farrell in really revamping the whole budget cycle experience, not only from, as a nonprofit, not only as a, your colleague as a policy maker in the mayor's office, but to be able to create a system that is fair and that doesn't drag on. here we are three and that doesn't drag on. here we are 3 pm this posted 3 am in the morning. i think that
we've a lot of work to do in san francisco and were really fortunate to have a thriving economy with unprecedented civic resource. now, in partnership with our colleagues here on the board of supervisors, and mayor lee, you're putting those resources to use it to make us safer healthier and hopefully eventually more affordable city for everyone. thank you. >> supervisor cohen >> thank you very much. of course i want to give a moment to recognize the leadership of mayor lee was done...
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oracle waits the critical need to increase the capacity and reliability of san francisco grows by 10 thousand people a year as our economy continues to grow and more and more congestion on the streets we have to provide people with viable transit options so let's keep on doing that so with that colleagues that's the chairs report any questions or comments please now is the time great public comment is closed. on item 2. >> please come forward. >> look forward stay ahead with the planning which we shall do research on the important - >> is there any additional public comment on item 2 seeing none, public comment is closed. and this is an informational item 3 is the executive director report >> thank you, supervisor wiener and i'm sure you're aware of last week the legislature passed a revised state budget that reflects the agreement with the governor he's expected to sign it more work needs to be done but we are pleased pleased to see they'll continue to engage in the discussions of the transportation funded at the state level that will continue to happen and we'll be tracking that as well as the advocate to include from
oracle waits the critical need to increase the capacity and reliability of san francisco grows by 10 thousand people a year as our economy continues to grow and more and more congestion on the streets we have to provide people with viable transit options so let's keep on doing that so with that colleagues that's the chairs report any questions or comments please now is the time great public comment is closed. on item 2. >> please come forward. >> look forward stay ahead with the...
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one is -- prosperity around addressing persistent poverty in san francisco and unemployment despite significant growth in the economy. the second, which as you have heard a lot about, his expansion in housing and homeless services particularly about supportive housing to get larger number of homeless single adults as well as families into supportive housing. the third area, is really about delivery of benefits. particularly -- but also our cash assistance programs. this budget finally reflects the transition that we have made internally around our business processes in delivering those benefits. increased and efficient manner. this next slide depicts the funny breakdown across the three departments and you can see the growth in each slice of either i am not, go through all the but i will highlight a couple, however. significant growth as a mission homeless services, but 24 million dollars increase, due to increases in federal grants. which is always welcome. as well as significant increases investment in general fund that the mayor has prioritize. increasing growth and adult services, and an increase in oecd particu
one is -- prosperity around addressing persistent poverty in san francisco and unemployment despite significant growth in the economy. the second, which as you have heard a lot about, his expansion in housing and homeless services particularly about supportive housing to get larger number of homeless single adults as well as families into supportive housing. the third area, is really about delivery of benefits. particularly -- but also our cash assistance programs. this budget finally reflects...
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d'avenant the conference is being held a union for hilton san francisco president obama expected plan health-care creating jobs in the economy of the one talking about a first and foremost on the president's line with the charleston chart massacre the president was in the night in san francisco he is the to the part tomorrow morning about 940 a local or part shut down after dozens of children become sick some even vomiting what could possibly cause the illness when will the park reopened? tonight there are concerns and how those fires are starting a to a daily bath and collect killed six young people we talk to the city of berkeley about what this could mean provincial inspection. >>pam moore: they died when about and it collapsed beneath them an apartment complexes have been early tuesday seven others landed in the collapse. >>scott rates: they tell me they will be working through the weekend to try and determine how this bop and the collapse of wife loves me was behind me to visit the memorial here more more flour 7 added to the site of all along it has been three days since the fed about the collapse of the liberal garden
d'avenant the conference is being held a union for hilton san francisco president obama expected plan health-care creating jobs in the economy of the one talking about a first and foremost on the president's line with the charleston chart massacre the president was in the night in san francisco he is the to the part tomorrow morning about 940 a local or part shut down after dozens of children become sick some even vomiting what could possibly cause the illness when will the park reopened?...
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san francisco. is obama administration proposing a 24% increase in fuel economy in trucks by 2027.k: we look how this will impact the nations 7 million plus trucks and market makers -- shippers when we continue. ♪ mark: welcome back to the "bloomberg market day." i'm mark crumpton. i think we have the fridays. the obama administration fueling an increase on efficiency requirements. it's part of the president's pledge to cut overall emissions by 26% in a decade. youy: it's the second time later set efficiency goals for the 7 million traffic trailers and heavy-duty trucks that hall most of the nation's goods. from washington to discuss this. how exactly are these rules going to impact these truckers? how damaging would be for them? jeff: when it's time to buy a new truck, they want to spend more money, and so over the span of this decade they are talking about for this set of rules, they are estimating that it will cost -- a new truck, which $100,000, more than will be $10,000 to $12,000 more expensive. mark: give us an overall look at the economy. what does this mean for travel in i
san francisco. is obama administration proposing a 24% increase in fuel economy in trucks by 2027.k: we look how this will impact the nations 7 million plus trucks and market makers -- shippers when we continue. ♪ mark: welcome back to the "bloomberg market day." i'm mark crumpton. i think we have the fridays. the obama administration fueling an increase on efficiency requirements. it's part of the president's pledge to cut overall emissions by 26% in a decade. youy: it's the second...
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san francisco. he also talked about the economy of u.s. cities and climate change. this is half an hour.[applause] president obama: hey! thank you. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you so much. thank you, mayor. thank you so much. everybody, please have a seat. thank you. thank you so much. i love being with mayors. [laughter] it is great to be here, although i did worry a little bit that dennis johnson would introduce me again. at the white house, he had the old bulls theme song. it set a very high bar, as if i were michael jordan coming out. he is a great friend, and i appreciate him, as i do so many of the mayors here. i saw a lot of you in washington in january. i had such a good time, i said let's meet this summer as well and this summer i thought i would come to you. i want to thank our host, san francisco mayor ed lee. [applause] he was just in the white house for the san francisco giants championship visit. [applause] i know how excited the mayor is over the golden state warriors championship. [cheers and applause] i want to thank two outstanding public s
san francisco. he also talked about the economy of u.s. cities and climate change. this is half an hour.[applause] president obama: hey! thank you. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you so much. thank you, mayor. thank you so much. everybody, please have a seat. thank you. thank you so much. i love being with mayors. [laughter] it is great to be here, although i did worry a little bit that dennis johnson would introduce me again. at the white house, he had the old bulls...
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i think about the sharing economy and new companies like uber and lyft. or two people in san francisco who were roommates and couldn't afford to live in an expensive city and they were struggling to get by. when they realized they could host travelers in their apartment as a reasonable rate. they created a company that became one that is now the face of the sharing economy, airbnb. they thought creatively about how to solve a problem, their own problem, and then created a website to give others a way to do the same thing. tonight, one million people will sleep underneath the roof of an airbnb. there are so many problems that we need you as a generation to solve. so again, i challenge you, tell us, tell me what problems you'll solve. i see natalie padilla said getting more help for people who have cancer. jalen, who is in the audience, a graduate, says climate change. these problems you have been given all the tools from las positas college to solve. and i hope as you go along your path, as you continue to find mentors and teachers, that you'll remember that you have two hands. one to c
i think about the sharing economy and new companies like uber and lyft. or two people in san francisco who were roommates and couldn't afford to live in an expensive city and they were struggling to get by. when they realized they could host travelers in their apartment as a reasonable rate. they created a company that became one that is now the face of the sharing economy, airbnb. they thought creatively about how to solve a problem, their own problem, and then created a website to give others...
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san francisco and throughout california. meeting these three goals the main cleaner air, better economy, and more protection for climate change. rossini's benefits already. there are over 55,000 solar workers in california solar jobs are growing 10 times faster than overall state job growth. unlike fossil fuels wind and solar energy require potentially no water to operate which is important during a drought like the one that we are in. like a be 32 in 2006, sp 350 is potentially one of the most important pieces of environmental legislation this decade. san francisco should be on record supporting it and we can achieve -- for the sake of future we must achieve these goals. colleagues, i have two in the marines today. in memoriam today. personal in memoriam is being introduced by supervisor, tech a cohen and i could relate mr. leroy cain who sadly passed away in his home on friday, june 12. he is not only remembered as an advocate for workers rights, a champion of civil rights equality, supporter of cultural preservation and a great san franciscan statesman, but also as an honorable, warm, honest man worked tirelessly to improv
san francisco and throughout california. meeting these three goals the main cleaner air, better economy, and more protection for climate change. rossini's benefits already. there are over 55,000 solar workers in california solar jobs are growing 10 times faster than overall state job growth. unlike fossil fuels wind and solar energy require potentially no water to operate which is important during a drought like the one that we are in. like a be 32 in 2006, sp 350 is potentially one of the most...
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successes to the 21st century of our economy and that our city needs to remain affordable that's why my budget includes over $690 million to support san francisco's public schools, preschools for all and the programs there and summer programs and after-school programs to clear out the waiting list we're making sure our children are educated and ready to succeed by working together to reauthorize the children's fund and public education enrichment fund through our bolted efforts to improve the san francisco's children and families we're establishing our children our families council not one agency alone can tackle the challenges that many of our families face and thanks to thanks to the prop c we were bringing together the city and school the school district and the community to this council to create a policy agenda that truly puts children and families first and san francisco with more people living and working than any other time in our history we must continue to be a liveable city that's why we'll invest over 2 hundred and 50 millin dollar hundred and $53 million in our goal plan to maintain streets and roads and invest in access for people t
successes to the 21st century of our economy and that our city needs to remain affordable that's why my budget includes over $690 million to support san francisco's public schools, preschools for all and the programs there and summer programs and after-school programs to clear out the waiting list we're making sure our children are educated and ready to succeed by working together to reauthorize the children's fund and public education enrichment fund through our bolted efforts to improve the...
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economy. >> that's-- >> that's high-tech san francisco. that's high-tech seattle. very wealthy economies and-- >> new york isn't wealthy? new york isn't wealthy? >> come on. >> let's get-- we've exhausted the subject and one more for you. as i told you in the last interview. i paid $53% of my income in federal and state income taxes. i think that's too much. i think it's immoral. where do you think the percentage should be? let me-- if i earn an extra million dollars. suppose i earn an extra million dollars. what proportion do you think i should pay in income taxes? >> i think that 50% is more than enough. stuart: i shudould-- 53% now. >> absolutely down to 50. down to 50. the problem is people like me pay 20 that's the problem. stuart: because you're running on capital gains. >> exactly. stuart: this is income for me. >> i know i know. and my point was-- >> i'm a driver to get up there and you want me to pay more. >> no i don't. all i want is for people like me to pay the same for you. stuart: you want a rise in the capital gains tax rate. >> and dividends. i want
economy. >> that's-- >> that's high-tech san francisco. that's high-tech seattle. very wealthy economies and-- >> new york isn't wealthy? new york isn't wealthy? >> come on. >> let's get-- we've exhausted the subject and one more for you. as i told you in the last interview. i paid $53% of my income in federal and state income taxes. i think that's too much. i think it's immoral. where do you think the percentage should be? let me-- if i earn an extra million...
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with the economy booming as it is in san francisco in particular how much does that feed the excitementich requires quite a bit of disposable income? >> you know, so i think when kite-boarding got off the ground in 2000 or so think it was kind of one of these corner case sports that looked kind of difficult and you're right, the start-up costs to get into the sport, it's not crazy. but it's not free. and i think when, when larry started to put pictures of himself kiting, i think that inspired thousands of entrepreneurs around the world to consider trying the sport. >> bill, how do you curate this group? beyond being able to afford this. what do you look for in someone that you're willing to extend an invitation to participate in this. >> well it's sort of a self-selecting group. think a lot of entrepreneurs that are out there kind of hustling and trying to get their businesses off the ground, they're out there talking to other entrepreneurs. i think starting a company is something you can read about in a book, but the experience is something that can't be really read from a book. people
with the economy booming as it is in san francisco in particular how much does that feed the excitementich requires quite a bit of disposable income? >> you know, so i think when kite-boarding got off the ground in 2000 or so think it was kind of one of these corner case sports that looked kind of difficult and you're right, the start-up costs to get into the sport, it's not crazy. but it's not free. and i think when, when larry started to put pictures of himself kiting, i think that...