reading about the history of the fbi. he's also written a number of terrific articles about the history of the fbi, the internal policy, and can give us some of the fbi's own perspective on what the church committee means 40 years out. so, with that we will start with professor calman. and hopefully will hear from all of you soon, too. laura: i'll focus on two questions. what was the relationship between watergate and the church committee, and whose interests did the church committee serve? recall that was sparked the church committee was hirsch's christmas 1974 "new york times" story that during the nixon years the cia created a massive, illegal domestic intelligence operation against the anti-war left, which some linked to the houston plan of watergate fame. additionally, hirsch said, a check of the cia's files ordered by james schlesinger showed dozens of others illegal activities inside the united states dating back to the 1950's. the hirsch revelations went far beyond watergate. and on the one hand, you can argue that

the fbi prior to that had not released information. it considered itself exempt because of various reasons, and the courts were beginning to say no. in fact, we were already involved in a number of suits related to the freedom of information act, as well as in relation to some of our earlier surveillance practices that had been coming out in relation to the watergate hearings. one young girl had sued us because the fbi opened her mail that she sent to the socialist workers party for a school project. they wanted her file purged. we were being sued by the socialist workers party at that point for some of the investigations that have been done. of course, many of the actions have been taken against the socialist workers party. that was in there. of course, if meant a lot of discovery in court. all these things are going on even as church is interrupting. of course, one of the bureau officials who was questioned was a man named william sullivan who during the 1960's was a senior fbi official. he eventually got thrown out of the bureau. he

in response the fbi said a statement to nbc news stressing that the aviation program is not a secret and is used for quote targeting specific individuals and not bulk collection activities or mass surveillance. the fbi also insists the plane program is legal and has been going on for years and does not allow them to listen to phone conversations. joining me live now is the attorney for american civil liberties union of maryland. dave, thank you so much for your time. >> thanks so much for having me on. >> up heard the statement provided to us by the fbi. your reaction to the fact that the agency says this is not a secret and not illegal. >> i don't really know or understand what the fbi thinks a secret is. the fact that this is being done with front companies hiding the ownership of the planes and the fact that we know absolutely nothing about what they are actually doing certainly qualifies to me as a secret. they have gone great lengths to keep this secret. and i think what's really noteworthy and scary about what the ap has revealed is the scope of this surveillance, which i think

the fbi is taking over. it's a critical turning point. >> it was an uncomfortable situation because the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms felt a great sense of loss. it was their own men, their own agents, who were down and were gone. >> shortly thereafter they were told that we were going to be taking over the handling of the response to the events on that day, and that was crushing for them as well. >> at the time, you know, it's personal. you have some animosity. i felt a little, hey, someone is coming in and taking away what i started. it was for the best because you never know because what we went through, what we could have done. get that camera out of here. get it out of here! out of here! go, go, go! >> i need help! >> news of the shootout immediately spreads from coast-to-coast. the national press swarms into waco, looking for answers. from the start one question dominates all others. who shot first? >> when we drove up, the davidians opened fire and i'm sickened by any other assertion. >> but in a cnn

no denial from the fbi so far and essentially, what we are looking at is the fbi is doing pretty much the same investigation that this was authorities already started a few days ago. we got these were very separate investigations on different matters, and the fbi, the department of justice and the united date looking at what attorney general loretta lynch called and democrats and within -- called endemic corruption, and this is very much at the center of the story and the investigation led by the department of justice and by the fbi, and the main reason for this is that some of those allegedly actions and some of the alleged corruption went through u.s. banks in the u.s. financial system. that is why the united states believes they have jurisdiction, and that is why the u.s. is investigating all of this. anchor: some believe they also have sepp blatter himself in their sites. philip: when he resigned, maybe he already knew that the noose was tightening, because what the fbi is doing now, according to u.s. media, is looking exclusively at sepp blatter. he is now the subject of a federa

knows that. >> the fbi doesn't dump anything. >> the fbi would be under an affirmative obligationdump that which it inadvertently collected. if it intentionally collected it it's a profound violation of the civil rights of the people whose information it obtained because it is doing so without a warrant. >> the fbi put out a statement and said the aircraft are not equipped designed or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance. do you believe them? >> i don't know that the technology exists. let's say we are walking through the streets of baltimore. they are following me not you. i don't know technology exists that would let them just latch on to my cell phone and not yours. if they don't throw away that which they gather they are violating people's rights. >> a couple of questions for you. what is a stingray? don't answer it's a fish. >> is that the name of a corvette? >> no. something that triangulates the source acts like a fake cell phone tower. allows government to locate interfere with and intercept calls. >> local police departments have been using these sting

part of the problem is the fbi doesn't capture the information.hink sandy berger to the 9/11 hearings of the fbi problem isn't what he doesn't know it doesn't know what it does know. so there isn't an effort to capture the information agents learned during these investigations. amy: i want to bring bud welch into this conversation. as you listen to mike german talked about going undercover and white supremacist groups in 1994, asking for debriefing and they say they did not want it, and in 1995 oh, city bombing happens -- oklahoma city bombing happens. timothy mcveigh, anti-muslim, white supremacist. your feelings? >> my feelings are very simply, tim mcveigh and timothy nichols came back from desert storm. when they came back, they were ill. they had ptsd. the government failed to give them the proper treatment that they should have received. so we see those kinds of failures and different branches of government having to do with terrorists. i think the federal government many times is reluctant to admit that we have homegrown terrorists in the un

this man pulled a knife on the fbi agents and cops. that man was shot and killed. you sit on the intelligence committee inside the house. have you heard anything about this incident in boston yet? we heard from a cnn contributor here saying he's hearing there was online threats against police officers in boston. >> i think speaking for myself as a member of the intelligence committee i have not yet been briefed. this wouldn't be -- unless it had a terrorism nexus to it, it's unlikely that we in congress would be briefed. remains to be seen. if this is a law enforcement matter and a guy that was emotionally disturbed or whatever, not likely to rise to the level of congressional notification. that remains to be seen. >> congressman, talking about the airlines again, this morning tsa has a new acting director following this report exposing such vulnerabilities in the tsa screening process and undercover agents could get through with weapons and with fake bombs and almost every single time they tried to in an undercover attempt. that not only is troubling but it also ra

but i got briefed by the fbi today on some of this wolf. t has become such a tool by isis in order to inspire young men to go out and kill this is what has the fbi concerned right now, now that that request has been made on the one-year anniversary here of the founding of the caliphate to go out worldwide and kill infed dell s infidels and they specifically mention in the united states so that's of concern. >> the u.s. is facing a higher threat level of terrorism than before some say, than ever before even. where do we stand on that? >> because when we were talking about al qaeda a few years back we were talking about organizations with command and control where they would put some time into these spectacular attacks. and we could have our intelligence services and our allies actually get at the human intelligence that would help us unravel those plots. how different that is from this situation today where increasingly isis is trying to recruit via this virtual caliphate they've set up on the internet and tell their young enthusiasts, you ta

the fbi says it has a number of investigations going nationwide. some have already resulted in arrests. and the most recent came today when the fbi says an agent was attacked right here in new york. nbc justice correspondent pete williams has more. >> reporter: fbi agents say when they went to this house in staten island early this morning to conduct a search, the 21-year-old man inside lunged at them with this kitchen knife, repeatedly trying to stab an agent in the chest. body armor prevented serious injury. that man, fareed mumuni, was charged today with trying to kill a federal officer. after his arrest, prosecutors say he admitted being a fervent supporter of isis who wanted to join isis fighters overseas and said if he couldn't get there he would attack any police who tried to stop him. the latest in a surge of terror-related cases that has the fbi scrambling nationwide. >> there are more cases out there. there are more americans out there that right now the fbi is watching because they're concerned they may be isis supporters willing to take

the fbi says hundreds perhaps thousands. the challenge for law enforcement is distinguishing between lukewarm supporters and potential terrorists. what you heard from the fbi today is they're taking no chances. and this case in boston is an example of that. once they have an intercepted phone call saying they were ready to go the victim of the shooting saying he couldn't wait, that's when they moved in. that's the kind of thing they're doing more. in texas, that was a case where he was on their radar screen. they didn't act and that was potentially a tragedy. >> i keep hearing from top u.s. officials how baffled they are and pretty impressed that these isis sympathizers have this social media capability. >> no question. and we've seen it in their propaganda. they're great at advertising their atrocities. but being great at turning americans to terror purely from a distance and over the web, over the phone, et cetera that's truly concerning. >> they have enormous capabilities in that area as well. jim sciutto, thank you. joini

the usa freedom act putting new restrictions on the nsa, plus a man under 24-hour fbi surveillance killedy authorities. >>> and why you may not be paying less at the pump even though oil prices are taking a plunge. ♪ >>> you are watching al jazeera america live from new york city i'm i'm morgan radford. the president signed the usa freedom act just last night, putting a stop to the government's bulk collection of american phone records. this is a big change from the mass surveillance used under the patriot act. >> the ayes are 67, nays are 32 the bill is passed. >> reporter: after two days of what president obama called a quote needless delay, congress passed a bill tuesday restoring most of the provisionsover the patriot act, the security legislation passed in the wake of 9/11 expired sunday night, but there is one important change. the bulk collection by the government of millions of american's phone records will soon be a thing of the past. here is what will change. over the next six months the government's ability to collect and monitor phone records in bulk without cause will be phas

officials have said the dead man was radicalized by isis and there's also now a new warning from the fbi about the ability of isis to influence lone attackers through encrypted online messages and social media. i'll speak about that and more with the foreign relations committee chairman senator bob corker as well as our correspondents analysts and guests. we're all watching. as we stand by for full coverage. let's begin with our justice correspondent, pamela brown, she's in boston with the very latest. pamela? >> reporter: wolf disturbing details coming from these court documents detailing the plots that the suspect killed yesterday, usaama rahim, had talked about with another person arrested by the fbi, david wright who appeared in court today, and a third person in rhode island. according to the fbi, usaama rahim, wright and another person met on a beach in rhode island in late may and talked about plans to behead another victim in a separate state.

they say based on conversations which were recorded by the fbi. they're filling in a lot of the rest of the story of what was going to happen what they had already decided to do, and what they were in progress carrying out. >> among the other things that the authorities apparently heard or moved in after was that he called his dad to say his good-bye good-byes. i'm wondering, what do you think they were waiting for if not a red flag that he was about to commit some sort of act of violence? >> well i think they were waiting to see if and when he was going to do it. they knew he had ordered -- which indicated to me also that they had wiretaps in place on his phone and on his e-mails because they pick up when he orders the knives from amazon.com, when they're delivered, they x-ray the boxes to move from the knifes are in there. an now all they're waiting for is the indication of when is he actually going to do it. an even with all of that indication and all of that evidence you still have the brother throughout saying oh you know he's a good guy, he w

and why is the fbi flying surveillance airplanes across america. what kind of information are they collecting and is it legal? >> what is good for guys in the bed room could be good for girls too. is female viagra about to be approved? >> and a bomb threat against the flight today was a hoax. the plane was moved to a remote area. and passengers were bussed to the terminal. and a search of the aircraft uncovered no bomb. >> it is a lot of inconvenience though. and a disturbing study on how the war is impacting veterans and their brains. an expoliceure to bomb blast can early exposure to the brain. here is the co-author of the study and principle director and it is nice to have you on the program, doctor. so many things to look at when it comes to veterans and their health. why did you decide to study this angle. a bomb blast and impact on the brain? >> first of all, i would like to thank you for the opportunity to come here and talk about the great research that is happening in boston va. we have conducted a long- term study and we are now entering o

the fbi insists the program is not secret. but the fbi doesn't explain why they registered all of those aircraft to dummy corporations, front corporations for our government. we tracked one aircraft registered to a company called ng research. the address, a post office box in virginia that happens to be very near the offices of the fbi. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with our report from washington. >> reporter: the investigation by the ap found the fbi flying surveillance flights in many cases without a court's approval using technology to gather video or cell phone data. and tonight the fbi empathized to fox news the program is not secret and the data is targeted. over a 30-day period the ap investigation found more than 100 flights over at least 11 cities. including seattle houston, phoenix, boston minneapolis and over southern california. the ap was asked by the fbi not to identify the front companies used by the bureau. this plane was unusual and photographed in northern virginia. congression

unbeknownst to him the fbi followed him to cyprus. and i'm just going to read a very short section from chapter one here. jumping back and forth. you had to give it to the russian. he summoned nathan ten time zones from home to a city known for its old world cuisine just to rendezvous in front of a tgi friday's. nathan stood on a wide sidewalk as darkness fell over a shopping district choked with greek nightclubs and restaurants. towering street lamps bathed him in light as he fidgeted in front of the texas-based chain restaurant's familiar red and white awnings. he looked like any other hayseed american tourist, another culturallist yank who had stumbled into the exotic crossroads of europe and the middle east only to forgo the local fare and feast on jack daniel's pork chops, new york cheesecake and $6 budweisers. he wore jeanses, sneakers and a camel-colored baseball cap. the russian had presented him with hat at last meeting instructing nathan to wear it outside the restaurant while grasping his backpack in his right hand. he compl

and i quote, "the fbi orb the fbi's aviation program is not secret. c aircraft and their capabilities are protected for operational security purposes. fbi routinely uses aviation assets in support of predicated investigations targeting specific individuals.re not equipped designed or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance." in other words, we go after the bad guys only we follow the law and we're not hiding it. that's not true. the a.p. reports it linked the surveillance planes to 13 fake companies. if you're not hiding it why are they fake companies? leah gabriel with more in the newsroom. >> hi shep. in full disclosure i have to admit that in my past i worked for a client and i did do surveillance. and i will say this, shep, ti did did not wear a hat that said cia or t-shirt that said fbi when i was doing it. a former fbi agent i spoke with told me this program is often used in terror investigations also in investigations where foreigners are here trying to spy on the u.s. he says it's a great program which has sifshdaved fbi agents

the fbi revealed new details about the investigation.bc news has learned that three weeks ago based on rahim's social media postings and messages the fbi put him under 24-hour-a-day surveillance. agents disclosed they were watching as he went on line may 25th and 27th ordering three knives with long blades from amazon. they sarah he will and three others met last sunday and talked about a plan to behead a victim in another state, someone not named in court documents. just yesterday, the fbi says, rahim changed his plan saying in a wiretapped phone call that he wanted to attack police tuesday or wednesday, adding "i'm just going to go after them, those boys in blue, because it's the easiest target." yesterday, alarmed by the call, the fbi decided to break cover and question him before he got on a bus with one of his knives. officials revealed today that when five boston police officers and fbi agents approached he drew this knife and refused to drop it. they say he was shot as they were backing away. hoping to calm community leaders, bost

the fbi says they have been conducting surveillance from the air for years. that it's easier than from the ground and that it is done legally. fake aviation companies are created to protect pilots and the secrecy of operation, officials say, but civil liberties groups openly question whether current laws reflect new and potentially invasive technology. at a time when the public is openly debating what surveillance powers the government should have, the fbi's program is creating even more concern. stephanie gosk, nbc news, new york. >>> speaking of that debate over domestic surveillance, late today the senate ended a battle over programs that were halted when the patriot act expired sunday night. the senate passed the freedom act which restores but also overhauls powers under the patriot act that will allow americans' phone records to be collected again. under this bill telecom companies will hold the records and the government needs court approval to see them. >>> there were new scares today against commercial aircraft, five flights threatened over the u.s. a

the fbi? or have a put my child in a situation where have something between law enforcement and the parents that can help mitigate the circumstances? >> certainly, i think the opportunity is to -- for the community to engage for the schools to engage before it gets to a radical action that requires law enforcement involvement. what we try to do get communities to understand is they are part of the solution. it is not just the law enforcement solution we are looking for. we are looking for communities to be engaged and understand and intervene when these events occur. there was a recent case where there was father in new england his daughter went missing. he went to the airport and said i think my daughter is leaving. we were able to find his daughter. she was not at that airport but another one before going overseas. that happens every day with someone having that challenge. it isn't a law enforcement response. it is helping parents be good parents and helping the children not make bad mistakes

so we're now hearing of a new victim reportedly questioned by the fbi. ceive payments from hastert. the former house speaker is expected in court, though, next tuesday in chicago. >>> a federal inquiry has been launched into a florida hospital after a cnn investigation revealed its mortality rate for open-heart surgery was more than three times the national average. since 2011, at least nine babies have died following surgery at st. mary's medical center in west palm beach. the ninth, davey brandow died this past tuesday. we'll have more on this story throughout the morning. >>> a florida man died this week after being transported in a police van. his story isn't making the kind of headlines we saw maybe with baltimore man freddie gray. he also died in april. we're beginning to introduce you to this man, mitchell martinez. he was arrested for three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in april of 2013. he was out on bond but went to court on a probation violation last friday. his bond was revoked. he was transported from court to jail. this w

the fbi? or have a put my child in a situation where have something between law enforcement and the parents that can help mitigate the circumstances? >> certainly, i think the opportunity is to -- for the community to engage for the schools to engage before it gets to a radical action that requires law enforcement involvement. what we try to do get communities to understand is they are part of the solution. it is not just the law enforcement solution we are looking for. we are looking for communities to be engaged and understand and intervene when these events occur. there was a recent case where there was father in new england his daughter went missing. he went to the airport and said i think my daughter is leaving. we were able to find his daughter. she was not at that airport but another one before going overseas. that happens every day with someone having that challenge. it isn't a law enforcement response. it is helping parents be good parents and helping the children not make bad mistakes

the fbi for one, contacted miss burdge two weeks ago. mr. hastert is due in federal court next week and the charges are bank fraud and lying to the fbi about alleged hush money that he paid to someone identified only as individual a. cnn is following all the developments in chicago. for starters, i think a lot of people might have considered this young man who is now dead, might have been individual a. but it turns out the sister says he's not individual a. >> well, that's right, ashleigh. we don't know yet who individual a is. cnn did learn last week that there was a second victim. this might be, in fact, that second victim. the sister of this victim is telling abc news that hastert abused her brother throughout his high school career, and his name, of course, is steve reinboldt. he was abused by hastert in the 1970s while hastert was a high school wrestling coach. reinboldt was that team's equipment manager. that's what his sister joe lean is saying. her brother first came out about the alleged abuse in 1979, when he revealed to her that he

he became suspicious the fbi bugged his phone in 2012. on facebook under an ali as he wrote i heard some clicking noises on my phone. an fbi agent called him and said sir, i have some allegations regarding you. i came by your house a few times but kept missing you. we have learned the family of usaama rahim has viewed that surveillance video of the shooting that happened on tuesday when the five officers approached rahim and then shot and killed him. also the family spoke to their attorney yesterday, jake and disputed the allegations that he had anything to do with isis. jake >> pamela brown, thank you so much for that report from boston. joe biden says good-bye to his first born son, a son he almost lost years ago in that horrific car accidents when he lost his daughter. a heartbreaking moment for a family that's already suffered so much loss. we'll have some of those emotional images. josh duggar's sisters are coming forward saying they are 2005 his victims. what they are saying and the pain they are feeling now that this has all come pu

the white house is downplaying a new fbi terror warn father 4th of july weekend. terterrorism experts say the latest fbi alert is more serious than previous warnings. several isis related arrests in the u.s. recently and terror attacks in france, tunisia and kuwait killed dozens and injured hundreds in the past few days. global stock markets are plunging today as the debt crisis in greece gets worse. markets had the worst day this year. the dow down 350 points. greece is heading for default tomorrow, and a possible exit from the euro after that. >>> and president obama today signed one of his biggest argues achievement of the past week. new trade deal, the president admitted the debate won't end with the bill signing. congress has an up-or-down vote on any new trade deals. >>> u.s. negotiators remain in vienna for iran nuclear talk. officials suggesting significant back tracking by tehran's negotiators. here to discuss whether iran has the upper hand whether the u.s. may have to give up more to seal a deal with iran is former pentagon official and fox news national

at that time, along with the fbi confronted the suspect, identified themselves as boston police and fbi. at that particular time, the suspect turned, he pulled out a military-type knife. the officers asked him several times to put that knife down. they gave him several commands. he -- the officers tried their best retreating.

next week on charges of bank fraud, lying to the fbi about the alleged hush money he paid to an allege victim. cnn correspondent is in our new york bureau. what do we know about the newest allegations? >> the story's taken so many twists and turns as it broke over a week ago. let's try to put all of the pieces together. we know there are at least three alleged victims of dennis hastert. the first is individual a, which we read about when those federal court documents were released last weekend. also another individual second person still not known to the public for cnn sources telling us that person has spoken to the fbi and did not accept any of this so-called hush money. then there's steven reinboldt. he died in the mid '90s, his sister is having to come forward for him, coming forward with serious allegations against someone at one point second in line for the u.s. presidency. >> jolene burdge tells cnn news

this is a possible future site of the new fbi headquarters. today's announcement shows the governor is willing to put up serious money to paycheck this a more attractive sight. thousands of commuters use the green belt metro in prince georges county every day. driving in and out can be a challenge. coming from the belt way you can only access it from the interloop going south. the only ramp is to the outer going out. >> you can learn it the hard way but you will never do it again. >> there is a back way. ty phoenix is new to the area. >> getting here can be challenging, especially if there is traffic. trying to get around the loop is challenging because it is mostly neighborhoods. >> ho gan is allocating $200 million to construct a full interchange. ho gan hopes it will make it a more attractive pick for the fbi headquarters. >> if it gets the fbi here, do it. >> commuters and residents hope this investment will pay off. the green belt becoming the future hom of the fbi in more than 11,000 jobs. >> sounds like a good idea if they can make the n

the fbi? strategy to insure the communities understand the threat and how it is being manifested. in my mind, it is almost like what we do with predtory behavior with child molesters. we have to inform parents of what is happening on the internet so they can monitor what children are doing and seeing on a continuous bases. >> do parents who are monitoring, do they have enough options out there i think the child might be engaged in this behavior. who do i call? the local law enforcement? the fbi? or have a put my child in a situation where have something between law enforcement and the parents that can help mitigate the circumstances? >> certainly, i think the opportunity is to -- for the >> certainly, i think the opportunity is to -- for the community to engage for the schools to engage before it gets to a radical action that requires law enforcement involvement. what we try to do get communities to understand is they are part of the solution. it is not just the law enforcement solution we are

that's why you told the lie to the fbi. >> the sister said in that interview the fbi reached out to her and came to speak to her. when you talk about statute of limitations and the fact they caught him with these other charges, bank fraud and lying to the fbi, why was the fbi wanting to speak to her? purely part of the investigation to see if there was anything there or was it to be kind and let her know this was about to happen? >> i suspect they were talking to her in the event that they would use the family's testimony in the lying to fbi count because, remember, the fact that the statute of limitations is gone and family can't prosecute doesn't preclude federal prosecutors from saying he lied because he didn't want this to come out. it would have been destructive of his career as a lobbyist and opened other allegations against him and provides a strong motivation to lie to the fbi about why you're taking all of this money out of the bank and paying it somewhere. >> now we have this story and still individual a, that person not named in the indictment. that person is still out there

the sheriff's department, the law enforcement division, the fbi, the atf, and other federal agencieshat are working with us. we are committed, we are determined and we are definitely working right now with a number of agents and police officers in our region to identify the individual that we'd talk to about one hour ago. this is a situation that is unacceptable in any society. especially in our society and our city. we are committed to doing whatever is necessary to bring this individual to justice. i'm committed to all of the people working with us. we will do whatever we have to, work as long as we have to, use whatever resources we have from the fbi headquarters to help us. we will set up a hotline. you can call the fbi. we will have feds and police officers manning that phone. we want to identify and arrest the suspect. for members of the community who have seen the vehicle as well as the suspect, please call law enforcement. he is a dangerous individual he should not be approached by anyone. please notify us if you see the individual or car so that we can take the appropriate a

. >> reporter: the fbi moved in at sunset. the accused isis terrorist, 24-year-old nicholas rovinski. this was rovinski just six years ago when he graduated high school, a bright future ahead. a seemingly unlikely target given his online persona as a struggling musician, with a pretty friend, into health foods. but now friends and neighbors in this quiet neighborhood in warwick, rhode island, learned the boy next door, rovinski, was, according to the fbi, leading a second, secret life. >> it's scary. real scary. >> reporter: in court documents, the fbi said rovinski had taken an arabic name, nuh amriki, converted to islam, and studied this online video which showed how to make a machete without power tools. >> and here's the final product. >> reporter: he later told the fbi innocent americans should die. >> isis' strategy of reaching into the united states through their propaganda is working, they're able to mobilize people in this country to carry out these types of attacks. >> reporter: the fbi says rovinski is tied to the ma

we heard from evans and the fbi. and what this means about larger picture for boston. >> i think the first thing to take a step back is when i read the initial reports of this i was struck by the 24/7 surveillance on the subject. that is a very uncommon investigative technique in investigations because it takes a lot of resources to do that. generally you don't apply 24/7 surveillance to individuals unless you think there is an imminent threat, that they're going to act out or leave the country to join one of these groups. that means they had enough information to know that this guy was dangerous. and i think what unfolded the violence that he displayed, wielding the knife and subsequent shooting, you know, underscores that potential threat. >> we're hearing it's inconclusive from certain people who had seen the film about the weapon in his hand. some saying military-style knife with the planning of maybe going after police for beheading purposes. so now we hear from evans saying that there was intelligence that said

the fbi's program is creating even more concern. stephanie goszk, nbc news new york. >>> the senate ended a battle over programs that were halted when the patriot act buyered sunday night. the senate passed the freedom act which restores and overhauls powers under the patriot act that will allow americans phone records to be collected again. but under this bill, telecom companies will hold the records and the government needs court approval to see them. >>> there were new scares today against commercial aircraft five flights threatened over the u.s. and mexico by someone claiming explosive devices were on board. nbc's tom costello reports. >> reporter: american flight 648 met by police and a bomb squad after someone phoned in a threat. the pilot had just landed unaware of the threat when the tower asked for the number of people on board. >> 93. what seems to be the problem. >> it was a hoax phone threat. certainly not a very funny one. >> reporter: it now brings to mibd 20 of the planes threatened over the past few days. the fbi is t

we have now been given a name. >> yes, named by the fbi. rly he didn't attempt to hide his identity. he must have known that most of these buildings have cctv and he sat with the conga congaconga conga -- congregation. they have also identified his car, so we have massive manhunt looking for this man and this car. we have also found a picture of him on facebook and it's a picture where he is posing in a jacket which also bares the flag of apartheid south africa so all of this will build into the profile for the fbi to try to find out who he is and what his motives were behind this attack. >> are we getting anymore on the victims and how the community is coping with the tragedy in >> clearly the community believes that this is part of the growing symptom of the afghan american community in the united states not being treated the way it should be treated. although it would be hard to take this one incident and make that about everything that is going on in the united states at the moment. but clearly there is deep-seeded anger in the community

he was expecting to be talked to by the fbi. called his father while waiting before he went into this parking lot where he was finally approached by the officers. i want to add to what bob just talked about. you know i keep talking to law enforcement officials who keep telling me that they've nod had a certain -- at this level, height of threat that they've noticed as we have right now. the heightened threat especially after garland, it's leading to fbi to do different things. they're shaking the trees more so to speak. they're trying to talk to people because they don't know when people are going from consuming the propaganda in the media by the isis and actually trying to carry out an attack. that's what happened in garland. they don't want that to happen again. >> you worked at the fbi, you agree? >> absolutely. this is a case where they would be looking at the metadata phone records. who have these guys been in contact by telephone, texts, phone calls, e-mails going back two or three years. what are the greater number of peop

. >> the fbi said he's not. >> you're being sarcastic. >> the fbi said he's not a terrorist.k into a church as a white supremacist radicallized by an ideology ask by name for a state senator shoot him execution style and eight other people but you're not a terrorist. >> larry: let me say why the fbi is full of [bleep] because this-- no because the kkk did act like this all the time. called themselves this is-- people don't realize racists owned this [bleep]. they called themselves a terrorist group. they honed it. there is such a thing as racial terrorism. >> of course. "the new york times" yesterday reported that since 9/11 twice as many people in this country have been killed by racist and white supremacists and far right zealots than by islamic terrorists that doesn't even include people like michael wayne page who went into a seec temple doesn't include the dude who was an anti-government zealot who flew a plane into an irs building killing a government agent. none of those guys are actually called terrorists. and yet still we're obsessed with terrorism and islamic terror