my question threats to you mr. bery, but others as well we for mr. bery's testimony about the conditions involving the preparation for the 2022 soccer world cup. what's the relationship between the testimony that we are hearing, mr. bery, about corruption, bribery racketeering criminal activity related to fifa, and the findings that your organization has made in regard to what's going on in preparation for the world cup? is our hearing, on these two contrasting kinds of stories that don't belong together, or the intimately tied to each other? >> take you for the question. at the end of the day when fifa made the decision to grant the bid for the 2022 world cup to occur in qatar it took responsibly for the human rights impact of that decision. >> how can you say that? >> because they fasten international organization with a billion dollars plus in reserves that has the responsibility under u.n. principles to ensure that its operations do not turn a blind eye to or directly involved serious human rights abuses. it's pretty clear at human rights abuses a

my question, we have heard mr. bery:'s testimony about the conditions involving the preparation for the 2022 soccer world cup. what is the relationship between the testimony that we are hearing, mr. bery: about corruption, bribery activity criminal activity related to fifa, and the findings that your organization has made in regards to what is going on in preparation for that role cap? -- world cup? are these two contrasting stories that do not belong together, or are they intimately tied together? >> thank you chairman for the question. at the end of the day when fifa made the decision to grant the bid for the 2022 world cup to qatar, it took response ability for the human rights impact of the decision. >> how can you say that? >> fifa with an international organization with a billion-dollar preserve had a responsibility under you and principles to ensure that its operations do not turn a blind eye to or directly involve serious human rights abuses. and it is pretty clear that human rights abuses and labor exploitation

>> of course the answer is yes. >> mr. bery. >> there is definitely been a startling lack of attention by many parties involved with fifa and the world cup to be serious problems of labor exploitation today. thousands upon thousands of foreign migrant workers are forced into a terrible terrible system that can lead up to forced labor in some cases and it is time for the sponsors of the world cup. it is time for the contractors and businesses involved as well as the host government at all to start taking action in doing something about the way price crisis. >> they can have an impact by virtue of their power of the purse and dollar investments. >> the sponsors of the world cup can play a serious and constructive role in averting the labor rights crisis happening in the next placation spiking the world cup in 2022. >> do you agree? >> i do agree. look the sponsors spend tens of billions of dollars to protect their brands. they themselves adopt governance programs and compliance with the best practice recognize globally. what does

mr. bery said earlier. fifa is not an international organization. it is not an ngo. it is not a corporation. it doesn't follow any guidelines or standards. what exemplifies fifa is a small clique of very powerful individuals whose self-dealing was kept very secret, at the top level of the organization. it's no surprise to me that an individual federation like the u.s. soccer federation didn't know, didn't understand what was going on. this organization, as pointed out by the justice department, has systematic corruption. and for years now, for over ten years, in the midst of many scandals and even going back before ten years when mr. jennings was aggressively reporting on lack of transparency and accountability, the organization answered to one man and one man alone and that man controlled this organization with an iron fist and an iron grip. and that was the president of the organization, seth blatter. when he wanted someone to know something, he would let them know. otherwise, they would be

mr. bery for example. by question to you, mr. berry and mr. hershman and mr. jennings and even mr. flynn we've heard mr. berry's testimony about the conditions involving the preparation for the 2022 -- excuse me, 2022 soccer world cup. what is the relationship between the testimony that we're hearing, mr. bery about corruption bribery, racketeering, criminal activity, related to fifa and the findings that your organization has made in regard to what is going on in preparation for that world cup. how-is our hearing, are these two contrasting type of stories that don't belong together or are theyin mattly tied to each other. >> thank you for the question. at the end of the day when fifa made the decision to grant the bid for the 2022 world cup to occur in qatar, it took responsibility for the human rights impacts of that decision. >> how can you say that? why is that true. >> because fifa as an international organization with a billion dollars plus in reserves has a responsibility under u.n. pri

tie something together because it may be confusing as to why we're having a hearing that involved mr. bery for example. by question to you, mr. berry and mr. hershman and mr. jennings and even mr. flynn, we've heard mr. berry's testimony about the conditions involving the preparation for the 2022 -- excuse me, 2022 soccer world cup. what is the relationship between the testimony that we're hearing, mr. berry, about corruption, bribery, racketeering, criminal activity, related to fifa and the findings that your organization has made in regard to what is going on in preparation for that world cup. how -- is our hearing, are these two contrasting type of stories that don't belong together or are they intimately tied to each other? >> thank you for the question. at the end of the day when fifa made the decision to grant the bid for the 2022 world cup to occur in qatar, it took responsibility for the human rights impacts of that decision. >> how can you say that? why is that true. >> because fifa as an international organization with a billion dollars plus in reserves has a responsibility under

mr. sunjeev bery the advocacy director for the middlect east and north africa will testify about the findings of the report regarding working conditions and finally mr. jennings as investigative writer and to filmmaker accredited pulling the cover of of the fifa scandal. please testified. >> on behalf of unitedr states soccer federation thank you senators and other members of the subcommittee to give u.s. soccer the opportunity to appear to answer questions. on behalf of the women's national team also i would think the president and mrs. obama and thes distinguished members of the subcommittee in the fans in the united states including all large televisionh a audience ever to watch a soccer match you supported cheered the women to the cup title 10 days ago. i have been u.s. soccer 1 chief executive over the last 50 years ultimately i am responsible for day-to-day operations of thenize federation. we are nonprofit membership organization recognized bynd the olympic committee as a governing body for soccer and fifa as the national associationer member for thed united states for asst required by

mr. bery, can you tell the committee what more you think fifa can do, very specifically and directly to stop human rights abuses including human trafficking, exploitation of child labor, horrific working conditions, illegal holding of passports in effect involuntary confinement of workers and other abuses involved in construction in host facilities, in hotels, the breadth of these violations, i think has been somewhat inadvertently lost in these proceedings, which have focused more on the corruption, the overt criminal corruption and yet these human rights abuses are real and unspeakable. >> you're absolutely right, senator. the bottom line -- there are two big pieces of the puzzle that fifa can help solve when it comes to addressing the major problems of labor exploitation in qatar today and potentially in future countries that will be future host countries for the fifa world cup. the first piece of the puzzle is the question of what the evaluation process is during the bidding process to be