he spoke about his book, dollarocracy. f >> the inflow of huge amounts of money to our politics has changed almost everything about our politics for the worst, not for the better. historically, in an american political campaign, the dominant force in the campaign, the center of the campaign was your human level engagement with people. that has just been blown apart. now, we have campaigns that are defined by sound bytes, not real address, not real interactions. they are defined at the state level by flying around the state in a jet and landing at an airport, having an appearance, getting back in the fly and fly -- getting back in a plane and flying off. we have politics that are delinked from the human-level interactions. candidates tell me -- they will tell you, in many cases, that huge portions of their days that used to be spent interacting with humans are now devoted to running down a list of names of rich people, calling them and asking them for money. sometimes candidates have told me they spend seven or eight hours