and they think that he's a winner because, as e.j.he's honest even if he doesn't have to request forgiveness. that's what we're seeing, not so much about whether he aligns with them from a biblical standpoint and more about the fact that they're tired of being beholden to liberal interests, if you will. the other thing that's really interesting to watch is how evangelicals over the course of the last four or five years have changed their views on things. you all would recall when evangelicals were a huge part of the need for comprehensive immigration reform. >> right. >> and siding with the 11 million folks who needed a pathway. now they've taken a 180 and are on the opposite side of that and siding with donald trump. it's interesting to see their own evolution and we don't know where they'll end up by the time 2016 comes. >> "the wall street journal" reports that trump is set to meet with a group of evangelicals later this month, but a spokeswoman for mr. trump's presidential campaign said the event isn't affiliated with his campaign

also with me is e.j. deion of the "washington post." thank you both for being here. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. congresswoman, i want to talk about the debate later tonight in a moment. first your reaction to the first rounds of debates? >> well, you know, reverend al, i think it is important for us to commemorate and acknowledge that this is the 50th anniversary of the voting rights act. i wish i could say that i was surprised it didn't come up in the happy hour debate. what came up was making sure that we can keep immigrants out of this country, kick immigrants out of this country who are simply here to make a better way of life for themselves and their family and no mention of comprehensive immigration reform. what i thought was interesting even without donald trump on the stage, this entire night is clearly going to be the republican debate starring donald trump. i mean, they couldn't even avoid within the debate that doesn't feature donald trump having the second question that the candidates were asked be about donald tru

e.j.: yes, i want to second that. i think this is something that i wish we would spend more attention and money on, because there is nothing more exciting to me than a water commission district. because it matters, right? areou want water, and you in the west, you are going to have a career, but if you do not know water, and you are running or a state legislature seat, then you have to come up to speed before you go to voters, or you are going to struggle. in washington state come we have got about 380 people who we work with over years to get them to run, and we want everyone who is willing to step up for these special-purpose districts, like water, like reclamation districts, school districts, that control in some cases hundreds of millions of dollars, and oftentimes do not have a quorum because people do not run for then in the state or they have a really convoluted process for elections. we have some in our state who are not elected on election day. there is a special election. we told every single one of them, yo

. >> i'm joined by e.j. deon and professor at georgetown robert kosta.pie at reason.com and reason tv and co-author of the book "declaration of independent: how liberation of politics can fix what's wrong with america." >> i think we're done. >> segment's over. yeah. why is trump focusing so much on sanders right now. >> fascinating. and he cut it off before he finished which is he likes sanders and sanders and he are the only two drawing crowds. i think it is very important to look at sanders and trump as two sides of the same coin and they are running kind of demagoguic kind of campaigns. and they are running on the world that is gotten the better of america and they are sound bite heavy, in many ways very stupid but also attractive and simplistic solutions to a world that seems to be on anyone's control right now. >> the crowds at bernie sanders rallies look young? is he getting the obama voters, m sanders? >> in a millennial generation when they look at what kind of nominee they want, many want to see someone who moves the party to the left. and with

. >> joining us now e.j.ion from the washington post and msnbc political analyst april ryan and washington bureau chief for urban american networks and josh pero new york times reporter and msnbc contributor. april ryan, there is bill o'reilly giving donald hint about how to handle this. it seems to me no one has to give donald trump suggestions about how to handle this. it will be up to the moderators to try to force him into the debate format. >> well, that's interesting you would say that, lawrence. i talked to dr. ben carson, republican presidential candidate who has made the cut. i asked him about the donald trump issue at the debate. he said, you know, i'm leaving it up to the moderators. we don't know how donald trump will react. one thing we know, he doesn't finesse an issue. we'll see how he pulls it together at that debate. it will be the most watched tv event sh i believe, of the year. just to see how donald trump reacts at the debate. >> josh, it is the most over anticipated, over hyped event we h

. >> so joe, in light of what e.j. dionne just said.hy is that israeli prime minister netanyahu continues his warnings as he did tuesday that the deal would light the path to iran nuclear capability. and some say this is the best thing going. how do you account for that? >> the president threw his lot in the with the republican party. netanyahu has a split in his own country. he just this week got a letter from senior general, senior head of the intelligence agencies arguing that this was a good deal, that this would protect him. many of the israeli military officials believe that. he's making a political judgment he can defeat the united states on an issue of american national security. i think he's wrong about that. most of the experts in the world agree with the president on this issue, not with the prime minister. and the president made very clear that mr. netanyahu's mind set is exactly the mind set of those who thought the iraq war was going to be easy, who rejected any negotiations with iraq, who e belittled the inspections of ir

i'm concerned with health care access for my parents back home and butter issues like e.j. was talking about. i know my personal mission is not just ethnic diversity in our candidates but geographical and we've really got to push that and you want me to push us at the organization to say i've got this great candidate in the rural part. not even an airport, not a target, not anything that they will change our state and we need that. i feel the legislature there needs to be a rural caucus if you don't have one in your state legislatures so they talk about rural issues but also urban folks that are not just by loadout. please push us that the folks running organizations working to elect new people and progressives that we need to support rural candidate. it's really inexpensive to help radio ads and things like that. you don't get back here. the push us at the organization level. >> i am another person from washington here and i learned about democratic party when my dad brought home the union paper from a shipyard job and the first party slogan that new news, but democratic,

and i think that that's -- >> it's okay for it to be different people doing that work. >> i think e.jht. you need the militancy as the starter. it's the match that lights the flame. but you also need a new set of leaders that have lived experience, that can go in and talk to -- i think now you have republicans that don't understand a lot of these issues or deny them, and then you have many democrats that care, want to care, but don't understand the urgency. baltimore has been a democratic city for a long time, i know a lot of people there, and i think you need folks that have lived through it to be some of these leaders that can help bring these coalitions together and bring us real policy. one without the other doesn't work. >> i would add to that also, and this maybe goes back to the hands clap for journalism. you put issues in front of people to be able to tie those links. i appreciated we all meet freddie gray in this moment of his arrest, but that the questions about what impacts freddie gray's life are these large structural questions that go much beyond it. >> the arc freddie g

chip kelly says today they will rotate in watkins, rookie eric rowe and e.j. biggers for now. as for that trade of boykin to the steelers, chip says it was a good offer they couldn't turn down. >> they called just about a week before camp and we didn't accept it, then they upped their offer just when we were headed to camp. it was really what they were looking to do. we weren't shopping brandon at all. when they got up to a fourth we couldn't pass up the opportunity. >>> crazy news out of jets training camp. you see fights in camp every year between teammates. but a fight with the quarterback? never. geno smith was sucker punched by linebacker today who was quickly released. geno is going to miss six to ten weeks. >> geno will be out six to ten weeks at least. this is something we don't tolerate, something we can't stand and you don't walk up to another man and punch him in the face. >> reporter: this is the instagram geno sent out afterwards, captioning it "i'll be back" but he will miss the preseason game against the eagles and could miss the regular season game against the

. >> e.j., it is one of those things in the age of trump when you are listening to, watching a jeb bushpeech you can't keep trump out of your mind. as you watch this, this was, as tim pawlenty said it was a serious speech by a serious can day. you can disagree with points or ideas he has going forward but it was a seriously composed and delivered speech, just nothing like what donald trump says about iraq or any's or any of these issues. >> well with, you can do a wonderful montage of trump's virtually substanceless speech today right up against the bush speech. i do agree with governor pawlenty on one thing, it is good to hear candidates give serious speeches. hillary clinton gave a serious speech about student loans this week that got almost no attention. what was interesting watching twitter tonight is that people are almost acting as if it were the general election, really going after or defending jeb's speech. both jeb and hillary think they are better off arguing with each other than any of the other pooech people they are running against in the primary, hoping that creates the se

detective e.j.ueron. >> you can see the suspect's car drive by the house, by the residence. >> instead of proceeding down the block, the car stops abruptly. >> you see it stop as if it's casing the place. the garage is open. it appears the suspect sees this and sees it as an opportunity to commit the crime. >> within an instant, the car screeches around the corner and pulls into the driveway. four men jump out, guns drawn. >> they attempt to get into the house. the home onner sees them. >> the homeowner's standing inside the garage and senses trouble, but instead of giving in, he decides to take matters into his own hands. >> he gets inside the house. he's able to keep them out. he does see the gun, gets in and gets access to a firearm and fire back. they shoot at the house. the subjects take out, some on foot, others leaving in the car. >> the homeowner refuses to back down. he fires off round after round. one of the bullets hits the windshield of the car. lupita moreo covers crime for kvoa, a nbc